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Re: [OM] Apologies to the Group

Subject: Re: [OM] Apologies to the Group
From: Paul Van Tuyl <olympusguy@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:24:22 -0600
Hello Winsor! At least I know you are reading the list! I do not claim to be a
photographer, and I may never have your knowledge. I use the list for exposure,
sure. I do not think you have ever seen me list all our OLY inventory for sale
here. I may miss the mark as you put it, but it is an honest effort to help. I
have found that other people are also interested in finding out about the
availability of an item, than just the originator.

My intent has never been to use this as my personal clessified ad outlet! Our
website generates OLY business from all over the world. I'm proud to believe in
what I'm doing. If I can help someone, that's very gratifying. Do I know what
I'm talking about? Sometimes, but just like you, I'm learning everyday. I'm
also learning tolerance. Thank you for your comments, and I hope in the future
I can somehow be of assistance to you. Paul.

Winsor Crosby wrote:

> I am afraid I did not lurk long enough before responding to what I thought
> was an unreasonable attack on the commercial interest on the list
> personified by the olympus guy. I have grown to regret my defense of his
> activities and I apologize to the people who have suffered his inane
> responses longer than I did.
>
> The substance of what I said was that it was valuable to have a dealer
> interested enough in your camera to let you know he had the rare whatever
> you were looking for. Unfortunately, I presumed interest when it was not
> there. I have seen enough of the responses now to realize that he has no
> interest in the list beyond its use as a sales opportunity. He does not
> read what is written and, as a result, his responses frequently miss the
> point, such as when he offered to sell Wein cells to someone who stated he
> had access to mercury cells in Europe. He never contributes information
> that indicates that he has much understanding of Olympus equipment or of
> the photographic art.  He is content to tag onto someone else's careful
> explanation with a "Yes, that is true and I have this for sale" kind of
> response.  His only contribution are sales offers which he is not willing
> to make privately, which he would do if he were only trying to help as he
> protests. Not only that, he works his way down the list and publicly makes
> the offer to each person who was a party to the thread. By the time he is
> done everyone on the list has seen him offer the same item 4 or 5 times. I
> am sure he considers this good exposure for potential sales and thus good
> business, but it looks like rude, sweaty avarice. He probably goes on to
> work some other list as the Pentax Guy or the Minolta Guy.
>
> I admit I am new to this list business and do not know whether something
> can be done to remedy this situation, but I would be happy to go along with
> whatever can be done that is okay with the others on the list. In the
> meantime, I have set up a filter to put the olympus dude in the trash when
> he comes in.
>
> Thanks for your indulgence.
>
> Winsor Crosby
> Long Beach, California
> mailto:wincros@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
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