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Re: [OM] Olympus Zuiko 35-105mm Zoom Quality

Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus Zuiko 35-105mm Zoom Quality
From: John Hermanson <omtech@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:57:57 -0400
Don't most large companies worldwide have policies thatv state, any ideas the
employee suggests become property of the company?  So, no matter where you go, 
the
company owns the idea (no matter where you go there you are):-)

John

ONLYOLYBW@xxxxxxx wrote:

> In a message dated 7/27/98 11:57:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> dlau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> BW Wrote,
> << >Hi Lars,
>  >I was told by some Japanese Marketing and Engineers visitors here in the US
>  > that it is very common for engineers to change Jobs / Companies in Japan.
>  > Therefore, they also take along their ideas to the new company.  This is
> the
>  > reason that many competitors have very similar products.
>  >BW
>
> Dan Wrote;
>  I'll have to disagree with you here and agree with Lars.
>
> Snip!
> Hi Dan,
> No problem with your disagreement.  But, What are you disagreeing with, the
> FACT that they told me this OR the Fact that they are wrong and you are RIGHT?
>
> The fact is
>  that until very recently, the Japanese companies typically offer their
>  employees the equivalent of "life-time employment".  A company would
>  hire someone fresh out of school and train that person for position(s)
>  within that company -- if a job disappears, the employee is trained
>  for a different position, all within the company -- until the employee
>  retires.  The concept of quitting one company and joining another is
>  a very recent phenomenon.
>
> Snip!
> Yes, Dan, I am very aware of this culture in Japan.  It was or is, I
> understand, the reason Japan had the highest suicide rate in young educated
> males.  I think this was in the early 1980s or so.
>
>  On the other hand, as Lars said, the Japanese companies do cooperate
>  among themselves, much more than in the Western countries.  There is
>  no concept of "anti-trust" -- if it is good for Japan, then it is a
>  good thing to do.
>
> Snip!
> You should put this in capital letters.  Yes, you are absolutely correct here.
> As long as it is good for Japan, anything goes!
>
>  Finally, contract manufacturing is quite common in certain industries
>  in the US as well,
>
> Snip!
> Yes, it is called out sourcing.  It is common world wide.  This is not new.
>
> As far as the 35 - 105 being manufactured by Olympus question.  I suspect it
> is not.  Mostly because someone on the list said the aperture ring works in
> the opposite direction as all other Zuiko's.  If this is correct, I doubt
> Olympus would make such a drastic change.  Why would they?  Also, if my memory
> serves me.  The 35-105 was advertised as a "price" ( I think they called it a
> "S' series) lens.  This is a very common "outsourcing" method of adding
> product to an existing line.  Therefore, I would agree with Gary S. and others
> who have stated "they think" it is made by someone else.  If it was
> manufactured by Zuiko, then they must have gotten their ideas from someone who
> knows a lot about lens design.  Because from the reports here on the list.  It
> is a very fine lens.  And it sure is a radical change from the other Zuiko
> zooms.
> BW
>
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