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Re: [OM] FS: OLYMPUS 18mmF3.5 MC Zuiko Lens **NEW** on eBay

Subject: Re: [OM] FS: OLYMPUS 18mmF3.5 MC Zuiko Lens **NEW** on eBay
From: Frank van Lindert <lindertv@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:55:35 GMT
On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 05:40:46 -0400, Robert Bund
<rbund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Frank van Lindert wrote:

>> 
>> I agree wit this, but it IMHO it doesn't at all justify Robert's way
>> of selling. What makes things worse is, that at the same time the
>> auction of this lens went running he has also advertised it for sale
>> in rec.photo.marketplace (without mentioning eBay) for $795...
>> 
>> I posted a follow-up message in this newsgroup, warning potential
>> bidders.
>> 
>> Later he made a new posting there, without apologies, without pointing
>> to the earlier one, but indeed mentioning the eBay auction. The older
>> posting was not canceled, though....
>> 
>> I can imagine that Robert must be desperate after all fruitless
>> efforts to sell his beatiful lens, but trying to sell directly and by
>> auction at the same time is definetly not the right way of doing it.
>> 
>> Frank van Lindert
>> Utrecht Netherlands.
>> 
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>Hi Frank,
>
>First of all, I am not trying to sell directly AND by auction at the
>same time.  I am contractually obligated to sell the lens via eBay if
>the reserve is met.  I think you know that. After there was no response
>to a direct offer on the Newsgroup, and after 8 months without
>consummating a sale on the Olympus List, I simply decided to try my luck
>at eBay.  I'm not quite sure why even the mention of the word "eBay"
>ruffles so many feathers - perhaps it's a control issue, or maybe eBay
>tends to be a more efficient marketplace and people don't like that - I
>really don't know.

Hello Bob.

The lens was put on for direct sale at rec.photo.marketplace only TWO
HOURS AND FORTY-FIVE MINUTES before you put it up for auction at eBay.
This is what alarmed me. And the warning I consequently issued was to
prevent people from buying directly, not the opposite - otherwise I
would have mailed to eBay (and to you, of course).

Mistakes can always happen, I know. And you must have felt you made
one when posting the next message to the newsgroup:

:Sorry guys.  This post was in error.  I had pre-written both ads and
:placed the wrong one here.  I have only one 18mm lens and it is
:committed to the auction.  The good news is that the reserve price at
:the auction is a lot less than $795.
:Regards,
:-Bob-

Now this was, albeit a little bit late, exactly what I hoped my
warning would result in.

BTW, I am not at all opposed to eBay - actually I made a lot of good
purchases there (and sold some items too). My userid is 'franklin'.
The only thing I don't like is, that from the listings it isn't
immediately clear which auctions have a reserve. That would make it
easier to avoid those if you wanted that.


...snip...snip  

>
>Well, now that I've vented just a little, I should mention that I don't
>really take what you say personally, nor do I harbor any ill will.  To
>the contrary, I'm quite happy ro read what you have to say in this forum
>- it's often instructive and interesting.  
>
>Regards,
>-Bob-

Thanks, Bob. You understood things the way I meant them then. Let's
both keep posting here the way we regularly do: I value your
contributions too.

And... no hard feelings.

Frank.

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