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RE: [OM] Oly equipment and interneg film

Subject: RE: [OM] Oly equipment and interneg film
From: Smoliga Nick Contr AEDC/SVT <Nick.Smoliga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:52:18 -0500

Nick Smoliga
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hudson [SMTP:jahudson@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 1:18 PM
> To:   olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      Re: [OM] Oly equipment and interneg film
> 
> At 10:43 AM 04-10-99 EDT,  KenK1ZYW@xxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> >Making prints from slides- - 
> 
> >Just a few notes I have found out.  I Set up OM2n with bellows and slide 
> >copying stage on a tripod.  Put Fuji (Interneg ) ITN film in camera and
> set 
> >speed to 25 and bracketted and put it on asa 12 (the slowest that OLY
> goes) 
> >Bracketted with 90mm macro lens and here are my findings:
> 
> Last week I attended a slide show of underwater photography taken between
> the coast of mainland British Columbia and Vancouver Island. The photos
> were of National Geographic quality and appeal, were perfectly exposed and
> focused, and many of them were taken within inches of the subject. They
> had
> all been taken with single or multi flash lighting at depths between 25
> and
> 100 feet. The photographer / diver mentioned that they had been taken
> using
> a rangefinder Nikkonos [sp?]. In a nutshell the slide photos were
> stunning,
> just absolutely stunning. We also learned that coastal BC has some of the
> most colourful and photogenic underwater life in the world.
> 
> I learned afterwards that the photos were taken on print film and that the
> slides were made from either the colour negatives and / or prints. This
> came from the photo dealer who actually did the slide production work.
> 
> My questions are:
> 
> 1. How much of the original picture quality would be lost in the print to
> slide production process? [Smoliga.Nick]   You lose range every time you
> copy -- there are fewer gradations between extremes. Each generation of
> copy is more contrasty -- has fewer gray tones.  
> 
> 2. To what extent would or could the slide photos be a guzzied up effort
> reflecting the skill of the print to slide technician as opposed to the
> photographer? [Smoliga.Nick]   No more so than what can be / is often done
> with conventional prints, and or computer manipulation of images.
> Everything is a team effort. The editor(s) add to the finished product.
> Read up on the Declaration of Independence. Thomas Jefferson's draft was
> improved by editing.  The skill of the processing technician is always an
> important factor. Witness the anguished emails on this list about film
> damaged in processing. 
> 
> 3. How common is print to slide conversion for these awe inspiring slide
> shows? [Smoliga.Nick]   No idea. I've used the cheap 35mm movie film rolls
> (RGB and Seattle Film Works) that give you negatives and the slides that
> are printed from them for many years. The slides are never as good as
> "real" slide film. If I were shooting under uncertain conditions, and
> processing cost was not a major factor,  then color negative film would be
> attractive. 
> 
> At the time I thought that the slides were just out of this world. Now I
> have some second thoughts. [Smoliga.Nick]  If you've second thoughts,
> that's good.  Most things are never quite as they are made to appear,
> whether in a photographic exhibition or the 11 O'clock TV News!  Reading
> historical accounts of American Civil War Battles alongside contemporary
> newspaper accounts of the same battles will illustrate that point.  
> jh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >According to Fuji use 30y and 30m filters in pack. Use tungsen 3200
> kalvin 
> >light source. Do color correction at print lab. ITN only comes in 100
> foot 
> >rolls - use a dark room or just a "changing bag" about 12 dollars to bulk
> 
> >load reloadable 35mm cassettes (about 3 or 4 feet of film - curl of film
> is 
> >always toward the lens)
> >It ended up that  filtration pack (mounted in front of slide copy
> attachemnt) 
> >was fine, the bulb to filter distance was 8 inches and set camera time to
> 1 
> >sec and asa to 12 and lens to F4 (i would prefer F11 but the light is not
> 
> >bright enough.
> >Processed films come out very well.....
> >If you have questions please email me\
> >
> >This is - once set up - quick and easy and much cheeper than buying a
> N*K*N 
> >film scanner
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Ken M
> >
> >PS Info on how to use Kodak slide duplication filmn is to follow - I have
> had 
> >very good (better than interneg film) success duplicating slides......
> >
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