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Subject: Re: [OM] photo printers
From: Jan Steinman <Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:57:53 -0800
Philip -- I think in your zeal to promote other machines, you've played a bit loose with some "facts." But I REALLY didn't want this to become a platform war, and I'm not going to respond to further messages on the topic.

From: Phillip Franklin <pfranklin@xxxxxxxx>

Maybe it's easier for you and some other people who use Mac systems to achieve better color
management.

Yes, and that's ALL that I was claiming.

Postscript is not platform nor operating system
dependent although many misinformed Mac users would argue.

No, I don't think Mac users are misinformed about this. In fact, most of them -- even many in the creative arts -- have no idea they're even using PostScript, it is so well integrated! "It just works."

Let me repeat, it's EASIER -- I never claim it's IMPOSSIBLE to do on other machines.

Anyone who is interested in professional desktop color
management can do it on any platform. PERIOD.

I NEVER claimed otherwise. Anyone who is interested in building a house can do it with no more than a hand-saw and a hammer, which is roughly equivalent to my experiences using color management on W95. (Yes, I know later versions of Windows are improved in this respect.)

Certainly the Windows platform has the same quality tools as the Mac or SUN or any other
desktop system.

Yes, Photoshop on the Mac is the same as Photoshop on Windows is the same as Photoshop on Solaris. The same is not true of system-wide color management or PostScript support. My point is that much graphics stuff is built-in to MacOS, whereas it is "glue-on" for other platforms.

Windows has become the platform with the most users in
any given industry.

Not in the graphics industry, according to IDC et. al. Apple still owns 70% to 900f that industry, depending on whose numbers you believe. Furthermore, in the IDC study I read, the recent gains of Windows in the graphics industry have almost exclusively been via the introduction of NT servers -- the designers still insist on Macs on their desktop. I expect this trend to quickly reverse once UNIX-based MacOS X is out.

Personally I see a resurgence in RGB output...
This imaging technology is based on RGB so there is
no proofing or postscript coding necessary for cross platform capability.

Well, if it's printed on a reflective media, something somewhere is still doing an RGB-CMYK conversion. Discriminating people will still want to control that process. I'm now using Hexachrome(R) inks that include colors that are outside either the basic RGB or CMYK gamuts!


Once again, I didn't mean to insult anyone's platform of choice, and I have no intention of "converting" anyone -- especially if, like Philip, they have invested the time and energy into a particular platform's learning curve.

Windows is perfectly good for many things, but there is the weight of decades of graphics orientation behind the Mac. In many respects, Windows has flourished by being a generalist, while the Mac remained specialized -- and it is a documented fact (through industry studies by independent organizations) that graphics specialists still prefer the Mac.

This discussion has turned religious, and I'm outta here. If someone is really interested in documented facts, contact me privately and I'll go dig up the references.

: Jan Steinman <mailto:Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Bytesmiths <http://www.bytesmiths.com>

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