Hi Jim,
Appears the battle lines are well defined. I don't think the price is
the problem but rather the circumstances which surround this lens.
At first glance it would appear that this was a clear cut case of
buying off eBay to turn a fast buck from list members who in fact
had been following the same auction for a chance to "WIN" this
piece. Only when the real reason of the resale surfaced did it
become clear that turning a qick profit was not the primary reason
to sell the lens.
Maybe it best if list members take a deep breath, count to their
magic number and refrain from saying something that may hurt
feelings or further divide this list.
Regards,
George
On 25 Oct 2000, at 10:50, Jim Couch wrote:
Date sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:50:51 -0700
From: Jim Couch <spknsprkt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: Spoke & Sprocket
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [OM][FS] 16mm fisheye and 2 OM-2 bodies
Send reply to: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Andrew, do I understand you correctly, that it is ok for a dealer to
> make a profit, but not someone else? The tone of your post seems to
> indicate that making a good profit is somehow wrong, that dealers may
> stoop to this level, but not private individuals. If I recall, in a
> free market economy the seller sets the price, if potentiol buyers
> fiond that price objectionable they can pass on it.
>
> If the thing had not been on eBay, none of us would have known how
> long he owned it or what he paid for it, you would not have known
> wether he paid $5.00 for it at a garage sale or $500.00 at a shop. He
> offered the lens to the list, if folks think the pricing is to much or
> unfair, then they can just pass. Ultimatly an item sells for what the
> buyer and seller agree it is worth. what you paid for it has little to
> do with it. this works both ways, I am trying not to think about what
> I paid for the two lenses I am selling on eBay, when I see where the
> bidding is going on them it just hurts to much! :)
>
> I don't think that a list member is obligated to 'cut a deal' to other
> list members, some may do that, but I don't see anything wrong with
> pricing at fair market value, or even above if you wish to.
>
> Personally I am a strong believer in free enterprise. I firmly believe
> that the ONLY stipilations on adds for the list should be:
>
> A) They are clearly identified as FS posts so those who have no
> interest can ignore them. B) The poster clearly identify if they
> are an individual or dealer. C) The be adds for Olympus or Olympus
> compatible (after market lenses, ect) items ONLY. D) A given add is
> only placed once.
>
>
> Andrew Fildes wrote:
>
> > It's just that we can't believe that any list member who scored a
> > 16mm for that price doesn't want to get some personal use out of it
> > - it's a kind of heresy. If he was just selling off the body, as
> > surplus to requirement, fine - but isn't he asking three times the
> > price he paid within a fast turnaround? That's strictly dealer
> > behaviour. Andrew
>
>
>
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