I've dealt with one guy on ebay whose feedback page was PRIVATE! Do you
believe it, you could not see what kind of feedback he had because he wanted
it PRIVATE. Took him a month to pay for his item. So, I left NO feedback.
John Hermanson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelton Rhoads" <krho@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus List" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:27 PM
Subject: [OM] Naming Names
| >><< It was advertised as LN but it is more like EX cosmetically with a
| >>bad meter . . . I also bought the f280 flash from same seller that was
| >>advertised as LN but is more like Bargain >>
| >
| >Sorry to hear about your grade inflation problems. You ought to post the
| >name of that seller here.
|
| I agree, but Frank should be prepared for mail from a handful of list
| members urging him not to reveal the name. Several weeks back I aired the
| name of a seller giving me problems and got some negative off-list
| feedback from a few list members for it. I felt I was taking on personal
| risk for the benefit of the list (giving advance warning to other
| potential purchasers), but that got spun by a few people as my jumping to
| conclusions and damaging an innocent seller's record. Posting the names
| of deadbeat sellers is the right thing to do, but be prepared for a
| reaction from a small minority of list members if it isn't done right.
| And that was where I think I went wrong weeks ago, because, given the
| nature of e-communications, I've learned you can't summarize and condense
| as you might if you were talking to your neighbor. If you simply say,
| "Beware of so-and-so," your communication may be interpreted as unjust, a
| "judgment without a trial." I had summarized, because I didn't feel like
| airing all the dirty laundry. That was a mistake. (In fact, eBay also
| discourages summaries, and encourages negative feedback to be based
| strictly on the facts). In the future, when I issue a seller warning,
| I'll provide detail so people can make up their own minds. And, I'll skip
| the judgment calls altogether. I've come to believe that, although shared
| summary judgments are efficient and useful in many instances, they are
| not well-suited to virtual communities. In any case, the rules of
| politics still apply: "You can't throw mud without getting hit by mud
| yourself." (Which is why I think the feedback on eBay is such a
| crock--why give negative feedback when it will only damage your own
| record in a tit-for-tat retaliation? What's to stop a person with a lot
| of negative feedback from re-emerging under a different name? If you are
| honest with your side of the story, what constrains your antagonist to be
| honest as well? Do we really believe that everybody is equally honest?)
| OK, I'm starting to go seriously OT here, but let me take a moment and
| issue a GOOD seller notice. There's a guy on eBay named James Timmons
| (jktphd) who is an outstanding, honest seller of OM equipment. I
| purchased several items from him, most recently a 28/2 for $230 and it
| arrived in better-than-described, near-mint condition (REALLY near-mint,
| not pseudo near-mint, with apologies to those of you who don't think
| "mint" should be used as a descriptor). He also threw in free shipping
| and a free micro-fiber cloth. I say "What a guy," but draw your *own*
| conclusion from these facts. (And what a lens! Now I can see what y'all
| have been raving about.)
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