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Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Space shuttle
From: Mark Marr-Lyon <markml@xxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:56:33 -0800
Chris Barker wrote:
>It's a recurring problem Mark.

I can believe it :)  Something like 50-750f all people who fly the 
KC-135 will vomit.  Most get used to it, but some don't.

>It's one thing to have a strong enough constitution to resist honking 
>your ring (slang for vomiting, in case this has a different meaning 

Haven't heard that one before :)

>over in the US) on such a roller coaster ride, but it is quite 
>another if you are not using your eyes normally.  Your senses can be 
>confused by violent motion, but it can be reconciled with your visual 
>cues.  If however, your visual cues disagree too much with for 
>instance your motion detectors, the semi-circular canals in your 
>ears,  you get messages going to your vomit centre (I am told that 
>there is such a thing).  

We get the option to take industrial-strength anti-motion-sickness 
medication (scopalamine, which also is an effective truth serum, I'm 
told) which disconnects the inner-ear motion sensors.  This is quite 
effective during the flight, but leads to interesting effects while it is 
wearing off.  My experiment requires a rather high degree of operator 
control, so I've always taken the drugs.  Sometimes I have to do tasks in 
the high-g part of the parabola.  Moving around in low-g feels almost 
natural to me, but walking around when I suddenly weigh over 400 lbs is 
very tough, and any head motion sends me spinning!  The really lucky ones 
have experiments that require almost no intervention and are free to do 
summersaults in low-g and lie quietly during high-g!

>Therefore, photogs have to be good to avoid 
>honking when flying in small and agile aircraft, especially when 
>there is a rate of roll on or under G.  Not many owners will let 
>someone into their aircraft if it will return from a flight covered 
>in "technicolour yawn".

One of the first things you are told by the flight crew is that if you 
miss the bag, they can legally kill you :)  I won't mention the warnings 
about using the plane's lavatory...

>I used to instruct navigators in a small jet called a Jet Provost (a 
>Mk 5).  You could tell when their map-reading was about to take 
>second place when they went quiet, the oxygen mask came off and the 
>bag came out of the pocket.  Sometimes they had forgotten to bring a 
>bag and the gloves were put to use!  Some of these boys continued to 
>be airsick throughout their flying careers - that's dedication I 
>would say!

Sure is!  Some astronauts spend their entire time aboard the shuttle sick 
too.  I'm told that even some fighter pilots become sick on the KC-135, 
and I've seen some astronauts do so.  So far, I've been lucky enough not 
to, but I'm sure a fighter pilot could have me doing some serious ring 
honking in a matter of seconds :)  Of course, I'd be quite willing to let 
one try!

then Gregg Iverson wrote:
>I wonder if a particular lens would cause more problems than 
>another?  Would a wide angle, for instance provide more confusing visual 
>cues than a moderate telephoto?

I would guess that if you're not used to it first, either would be bad.  
Your brain is trying to reprogram itself to ignore your ears and only get 
motion cues from your eyes.  Anything other than the normal perspective 
could cause problems.  One of the most nauseating things I've experienced 
on the flights is landing in somewhat rough weather.  We sit way in back 
of the plane, but have a view all the way through the front windows.  
This is like looking through a long telephoto lens, and seeing the clouds 
careen around crazily is very weird! Especially since now your inner ear 
is being ignored, and your vision is telling you that you are moving 
around many times faster and farther than you actually are.  We'll see 
how I do with the 21/3.5!  I'd really love to try an 8 or 16 fisheye if 
someone would donate one -- all in the Name Of Science of course! :)

Mark.

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