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From: Ken N <image66@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 18:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
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There, I think that should be sufficient to make the spiders
search engines happy.

Oben, I trust that in person you are not quite as contrary as
you are on this list.  Not everybody appreciates your superior
attitude that you spew on this list.  What you may see as a
mental deficiency in one individual because of his views on
young females is actually both LOVE and RESPECT.  He is
exhibiting love towards his daughter(s) and respect for young
females as a whole.  How you are coming across on the list is a
person who disregards basic levels of decency. (whether true or
not, this is how you are coming across).

Anybody who believes that an average 16 year old (either boy or
girl) is capable of reasoning like an adult in issues of
morality, ethics and sexuality is fooling themselves.  At that
age they are beginning to reject the principles taught them by
their parent(s) and starting to express their own thought
processes. This process continues until the age of 23-25 when
hormones and peer pressure no longer are the managing forces in
their lives.

Personal attacks on the list violate the standards of decency
that we strive to maintain on this list.  If you feel that these
basic standards are too 1-puritanical, 2-restrictive,
3-offensive, or 4-contrary to your personal views then you are
free to go elsewhere.  But until then, expect that your FROM
ADDRESS will trigger a lot of filters and end up in the TRASH
folder.  It is unfortunate, since on rare occasion you actually
have something positive to contribute.

Asking you to refrain from your continued off-topic insults and
personal attacks have been meet with a resounding ignoring of
our pleas.  It is very apparent that you feel it is important to
not be restricted in thought or actions, but you desire that
other people's thought and actions conform to your standards.

As a general rule, lists, such as the olympus list, are governed
by the following:  Don't discuss Religion, Politics, Sex or
Sexual Orientation, etc.

I believe in freedom of thought and expression. However with
that freedom comes responsibility.  This list is made up of a
huge cross-section of many societies that don't believe the same
way.  You may feel that Americans are restrictive and
puritanical, but each society and culture has its own unique
sets of rules and standards.  Our "puritanical" standards of
skirt length, for instance, would result in the poor girl
getting a punishment by death in some countries.  Even comparing
drug enforcement laws is futile, since we arrest for illicit
drug posession, some countries don't, and others just chop limbs
off.

I too was offended by how the discussion of the 16 year old girl
was going.  Not because of how my mind travelled down dark
alleys, but because I know that there are predators out there
ready to exploit and harm individuals less capable of defending
themselves--either out of physical strength or through
experience and knowledge of knowing the difference between
sexual fantasy and true love.  At 16, that knowledge rarely
exists yet.

Oben, please consider these words and not respond with an
attack.



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