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Re: [OM] off OM topic: opinions on medium format 6x6 camera systems

Subject: Re: [OM] off OM topic: opinions on medium format 6x6 camera systems
From: andrew fildes <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:48:14 +1000
>Another  relatively inexpensive 6x7 and/or 6x9 used option is a Mamiya Press
>23 or Super press 23.  Completely manual die cast rangefinder chassis. In
>lens seikosha leaf shutters. The super model allows some limited perspective
>control. They made at least 65mm/90mm/100mm/220mm lenses and I think a 250mm,
>if I remember right. Also had a cut film back as well as roll film backs and
>extension tubes.Very popular with wedding photographers at one time. I still
>have have one with 3 different lenses but it is seldom used. Used prices for
>the roll film backs are high because they are used on other cameras. Very
>approximate prices (I may be out of touch): Bodies  ~$200 and up including a
>back. Backs alone $100+, Lenses go for anything from $100 to $250+ depending
>on FL. Shutters are are not coupled to wind, so must be seperately cocked for
>each shot. They usually have a large handgrip with cable release ,which you
>really need, as the unit weighs about 6lbs. Ken Norton had one he used for
>weddings.
>
>                  Regards,
>                 Tim Hughes


Oh yes. Also a multi-format back (69, 67, or 645 with masks), ground glass
backs, Polaroid back (Press Universal only) and a nightmare of accessories.
Lenses are 50, 65, 75, 90, 100 (2), 127, 150 and 250(2).
The 50mm/6.3 is great but tricky - 21mm equivalent of 6x9.
The 65mm is supercompact with a great viewfinder.
The 75mm is a late (black) lens designed for the Universal and is superb.
The 90mm is the early standard lens.
The 100mm is the later standard lens.
(These are collapsible for use with the bellows back on the Super 23).
There is a fast (and rare) 100mm/2.8.
The 127mm is a late portrait lens.
The 150mm is an early telephoto.
The 250mm/f8 is an early uncoupled tele.
The 250mm/f5 is a late, coupled howitzer (huge, 105mm filter size).

The 75m and 127mm were released at the same time on the Polaroid 600 and
the Mamiya Universal - they are basically night club lenses. The 250mm f/5
can only be used on the Universal as it was reinforced. The Super 23 and
some Standards have rear bellows tilt and can be used with Graflex backs,
with an adaptor. There are rear extension tubes too!
The 50, 75, fast 100 and fast 250 tend to be expensive. The 65, 100 and 127
are fairly compact and reasonably priced, and are good performers. The 6x9
and multiformat backs are pricey.
Andrew
(Standard and Universal bodies, 69 backs (2), 67 back, Pola Back, 50, 75,
100, 127, ground glass and bits, lotsa bits).



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