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Subject: Re: [OM] re: [OT] why sleezy yucky zoom on new wonderbricks
From: "M. Royer" <royer007@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:40:54 -0800 (PST)
Today's consumer zooms are mostly total and complete
garbage. The stuff they sell by third parties at Ritz
and other shops seem to be made of such flimsy plastic
and so light I wonder if theyr is anything in them at
all. Even consumer zooms made by (or at least branded)
as Nikkors or Canons etc are crud. I marvel at how
light the things are, is there any glass or metal in
there at all? The thing is the old adage still
stands... you get what you pay for. If you buy a $250
body with a $50buck 28-80 consumer zoom I would be
suprised if you never got good pics. A good
photographer with a bad camera will very likely still
be better than a bad photographer with a good camera,
but that doesn't mean his pictures will be any good
:-).

Personally I think camera manufacturers should go back
to the 50/1.8 bundle with new bodies, but then what
would become of their fancy AF metering systems? A
50/1.8 and split screen is a no brainer to focus
perfectly 99.90f the time and really quickly. 

Mark Lloyd

--- Acer/Siddiq <waltherppk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 1/2/02 7:59:20 PM, Gregg Iverson
> <golftooter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> >One time when I was between jobs I sold vacuum
> cleaners.  I was told to 
> >forget selling features to the women and show them
> their dirt.  Show the 
> >features to the men. I think camera buyers fall
> into two disproportional 
> >groups.  The largest want something simple to use. 
> The second want the 
> >latest gadget.  Somewere the concept of quality has
> fallen by the wayside.
> >
> >Gregg
> >
> >>It is simple - 20 years ago cameras were compared
> based on quality. Now they
> >>are compared (mostly) by price. Joe Consumer
> doesn't say "Hum which camera
> >>will give me the best image" he says "I'll buy the
> cheapest one."
> >>
> >>More then once I've been in a Ritz or Wolf or Dury
> and heard the sales man
> >>move the customer to a cheapo zoom. "This zoom is
> the same as that but it
> >>is 1/2 the price and goes from 28 to 90 intead of
> 35 to 70...." or "buy
> >>...."
> >>
> >>Joe Blow seems clueless with regards to image
> quality vs lens...
> 
> it's rather funny when my "cheap" zuiko 1.8 50 prime
> (all brassed but clean glass) completely and utterly
> 
> BLOWS away their consumer 28-80 3.5-5.6 zoom out of
> the water. I mean on a 1hr 4*6  print from cheapie 
> film, not pro enlargements.
> 
> /A/S
> --
> dum spiro, spero
> http://users2.ev1.net/~wesiddiquis/siddiq/


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