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Subject: Re: [OM] In search of 90mm F2 Macro
From: frank.van@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:32:40 +0100
I understand Gary's point, but I disagree when he states that it is
better to ignore the BIN's when assessing the market value of sold
90mm lenses.

'Buy it Now' sales inhibit 'normal' auctions because people are
willing to pay the (higher) BIN price. Therefore it seems reasonable
to count them in when calculating eBay prices. 
After all they reflect the prices people are willing to pay just as
much as 'normally' ended auctions.

So IMHO Gary's prices are too low when assessing market values.
The $700-750 range for the market value of an exc+/LN 90mm still
holds, as future eBay sales will probably prove. 

I also disagree with Gary when he says that 'after 9/11' sales should
be ignored. The market is indeed slightly less stable, but it is still
reflecting what people are prepared to pay. Perhaps people involved -
aren't we all ? - are a bit destabilized as well ;-)

Frank van Lindert
Utrecht NL.




On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:50:45 -0800, "Dave Shupe" <kc7iek@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>The following is forwarded from Gary Reese a former Oly list subscriber.
>
>
>I see a problem here in that folks are combining Buy It Now with actual
>auctions.  They represent two different venues, even if they are both
>eBay. In the price guide I'm working up now, I ignore Buy It Now's in
>determing averages. If I were to use them, they would have to be listed
>by themselves.
>
>Here is what 3 1/2 years of data looks like for the 90mm f/2 Macro
>Zuiko.
>*****************************************************************
>Certainty      Condition (horizontal) / Price (vertical)
>       10-     9+      9       9-      8       7       As-Is   ?
>IB     680     -       -       -       -       -       -       -
>typical        656     693     536     643     431     356     -       -
>?      -       -       599     -       -       -       -       -
>
>Any    665     693     552     643     431     356     -       -
>
>IB=in box, ? certainty=higher anxiety over condition,
>? condition=no information provided
>*****************************************************************
>
>I decided to end the analysis at Sept 11 because auctions after that
>point reflected market uncertainties unlike the 3 1/2 year period before
>it.  Until the market stabilizes, there is little sense in trying to
>make sense out of Set 11 to present market prices.
>
>Gary Reese
>
>
>Cheers!
>
>Dave Shupe
>kc7iek@xxxxxxxxx
>
>Latitude 47° 43' 1" North, Longitude 122° 6' 15" West
>
>
>
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