even if in the idiom of the fishermans and sailors of the south of the north
sea... Dunkerque (Duinkerke), Ostende, Brugge, Blankenberge ... they speak
something in between "nederlands" (or flemish... old nieder-deutsch...) and
english... very special forms of international language...
should have the same in the time of Tasman and all those courageous
sailors...
Yes ... at one time in history ... some people spoke other language than
english...
Stephan
(usually frenchspeaking...)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Swale" <bj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <roger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] Re: [OT] Dutch/Danish (was "Solvang")
> Hi Roger
>
> Probably something to do with the first European to clap eyes on NZ was
> one Abel Zanzoon Tasman sent over by the Dutch East India Company from
> Indonesia to do some exploring. He left after a somewhat bruising
encounter
> with brown-skinned natives !!
>
> Who knows why the change in spelling?
>
> And now we are back on this topic, I could remark on the fact that
seafaring
> peoples of the European countries - fishermen - used to meet and mingle on
> the North Sea and probably on the rich cod fishing grounds of Iceland and
> Greenland. Fishers from Scotland, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal.
>
> That may explain why the Scots version of the English language has some
> words in common with Dutch. For example. kerk = church; the verb 'to ken'
=
> "to know" (a person) as in the old song "Do ye ken John Peel with his coat
> so gay".
>
> Brian
>
> >
> > Bart Kuik wrote:
> > >
> > > The Netherlands consist of twelve provinces, from North to South that
are
> > > Friesland, Groningen, Drenthe, Overijssel, Gelderland, Flevoland,
> > > Noord-Holland, Zuid-Holland, Utrecht, Noord-Brabant, Zeeland and
Zuid-Limburg.
> >
> > OK, so to go off the off-topic topic, is this Zeeland anything to do
> > with New Zealand? If so, why the difference in spelling? And is New
> > Zealand as baffling a misnomer as New South Wales, which could hardly be
> > any more different to South Wales?
> >
> > Roger
>
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