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Subject: Re: [OM] Hi-Lo Kit
From: Bill Stanke <bstanke@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:21:39 -0700
Scnozz:

An interesting and useful post, as usual.  I will try some experiments
this weekend, so I can see the differences for myself.

Thanks!

Bill Stanke

AG Schnozz wrote:
> 
> >I'll ask you Stupid question #678 while the helicopters have
> you
> >distracted: how would a 50/1.4 with a 2X convertor compare to a
> >100/2.8?  I'm assuming less resolution and contrast, which
> >*could* be an advantage for portrait work. Hmmm...
> 
> Several factors come into play here:
> #1, the Zuiko 2X won't work with the 50/1.4
> #2, the 50/1.4 isn't sharp enough to multiply
> #3, the Bokeh goes to pot on you.
> 
> You can always put a brand-x multiplier on a 50mm lens, but it
> doesn't make it a 100mm lens.  It's a 50mm image magnified. This
> point is a bit subtle, but it is a critical difference to the
> resulting image.  A true 100mm lens and a 50mm/2x lens
> combination produces different pictures.
> 
> Why?  The difference isn't always apparent for normal
> pictures--say landscapes where you have gobs of DOF.  But start
> screwing the focus ring out a bit for close up or macro shots.
> The difference becomes night and day.  This is one reason why
> zoom lenses rarely have as pleasing Bokeh as a well designed
> prime. Some zooms essentially have a variable multiplier behind
> a prime design.
> 
> Take a 50mm lens, a 2X multiplier and 25mm of extension tubes.
> For your first experiment, place the multiplier between the lens
> and the tubes--you have the equivelent of a 100mm lens extended
> 25mm giving you a 1:4 magnification.  The Bokeh will be similar
> to that of a 100mm lens on 25mm of extension.  For your second
> experiment, place the extension tubes between the lens and the
> multiplier--you have the equivelent of a 1:1 magnification. But
> most importantly, you have taken a 50mm lens, used extension to
> get to half-lifesize and then magnified the image.  If you used
> less extension to maintain a 1:4 magnification you would still
> see a huge difference in the pictures.
> 
> The Vivitar 2X/Macro converter is an interesting beast.  It
> extends the lens and then multiplies.  This gives it greater
> magnification at the expense of working distance and Bokeh.
> 
> Personally, I've always preferred working distance and Bokeh
> over magnification.  I like my 50/3.5 macro lens, and it does a
> fantastic job, but the pictures taken with my 100/2.8 on
> extension tubes are far more asthetically pleasing (and sell!).
> 
> So, in a nutshell, 2X multipliers have their place, but I'd
> rather use them on telephoto lenses WHEN NECESSARY and forget
> trying to use them to avoid carrying a 100mm or 200mm lens.
> 
> We praise the manner in which our lenses create a 3D-ish image
> on film.  That's a function of the lens design. Why spoil it.
> 
> AG-Schnozz
> 
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