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Subject: [OM] Re: Kodachrome woes (was "Altitude problem examples")
From: Joel Wilcox <jowilcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 07:40:10 -0600
At 09:32 PM 1/31/2003 -0800, you wrote:
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But the colors in the slide looks, well,
muddy, dull, etc., even in the foreground. This was taken with a zoom and UV
filter, Kodachrome 64, a combo that gives me great colors here in NB,
Canada.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1270966
Here is another one of a closer subject, the walls of the building before
the roof was on. Again, it was taken in the middle of the day, with the same
muddy look to the colors.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1270987
When you bring back a lot like this, it is frustrating.
Wayne

I know I will offend some people on the list but here goes. That is typical Kodachrome color rendition in the desert. I have a friend who is a desert buff and Kodachrome fan. Almost all his pictures look like this, except during the hours near dawn and near sunset.

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Winsor Crosby
Long Beach, California, USA

I couldn't agree with you more, Winsor. I am trying very hard to supplement some of my stock photos on E6 films with Kodachrome, and it really is pointless unless 1) it is magic hour, or 2) there are people as the main subject.

The only thing I would add is that Wayne's photos also have the look of KR64 rather than KM25. I mourn the loss of that film like the death of a dear friend. But I don't think KM25 would have improved Wayne's shots, for the reasons you mention, although I think KM25 might have improved the cyan skies slightly. Either Kodachrome film has a painful restriction of latitude compared to any E6 film. People complain about Velvia's latitude. Let them work with KR64 for a while. You really have to make decisions about what values in even a moderately high-contrast scene you will need to sort of throw away. E6 films don't capture everything beautifully, but for every E6 flub there must be ten for Kodachrome.

It's just that when it is good, Kodachrome can be so very good. But man, it's work, it's expensive, and there's a lot of losers to chuck out.

Henceforth KR64 is for me relegated to macro work with flash (it's very nice for that) and people pics. As you suggest, Winsor, I would concur that Velvia or E100VS would pep up those midday photos.

Ducking and running,
Joel W.

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