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Re: [OM] 2X-A teleconverter ?'s

Subject: Re: [OM] 2X-A teleconverter ?'s
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:36:39 -0700
The primary level of compatability is mechanical. The Oly 1.4xA actually protrudes forward from the lens mount into the back of the lens mounted to it. Other teleconverters allow fro some protrusion into them by the lens:

Oly 2xA                    6 mm
Rokunar 2x 7 element      15 mm
Vivitar 2x-21 4 element   13 mm
Vivitar 2x Macro Focusing 11 mm

My guess is that it's easier to get good performance when one can put the front of the converter close to the back of the lens. Oly was able to go close by specifying which Zuikos would fit which teleconverters. The 3rd part manufacturers didn't have that luxury. The 3rd party converters come in a couple of generic flavors, cheap, short 4 element designs and less cheap, longer 7 element designs. The 4 element ones are pretty shakey. The 7 elements, particularly when the lens is stopped down are actually useful. Most of the 7 element ones look like they came off the same assembly line. The Tamron SP converters will only fit on Tamron Adaptall lenses, which may have given them some advantage in designing them, since they know what lenses they will be used on.

One generic answer is that pretty much any lens will fit on any 3rd party converter except the Tamron SPs.

The second generic answer is that any lens with an Oly mount, Zuiko or not, that projects less than 6 mm behind its mount will fit on the 2xA. My 2xA is cosmetically close to mint, but does have some marks where someone tried to mount a lens that was too deep for it and marked the interior blacking paint. Fortunately, it didn't hit the front element.

The secondary level of compatability is optical. Any lens mounted on any teleconverter will work, in the simple sense that the effective focal length will be increased and the effective speed will be reduced by the magnification factor. Since Oly knew than many shorter focal length lenses would fit the 2xA mechanically, but did not list them, I think we can conclude that it is optimized for and will give best results with, lenses 100 mm or longer. It is certainly well known that it works well with the 300/4.5. I suspect that Oly didn't recommend it for that and longer lenses because the effective aperture makes them so dim as to be difficult to focus.

The 2xA may be used successfully with 3rd party lenses that mechanically fit it. All teleconverters degrade the performance of the lens. Check out Gary's lens tests for several examples. Prudence would suggest testing any lens you plan to use with any teleconverter with and without it before doing an critical shooting with the combination.

Moose

Richard Hawkins wrote:

I know the 2X-A is only recommended for use with specific lenses ( 1)
50-250mm/F5 zoom  2) 100mm/F2.8  3) 135mm/F2.8  4) 135mm/F3.5  5) 200mm/F4
6) 200mm/F5  7) 100-200mm/F5 zoom). Is this because of clearance problems
with other lens rear elements or because of poor results optically with the
other lenses? Does anyone have sample shots on the web of pics taken with
the 2X-A and the recommended lenses? Has anyone attempted to use it with
other lenses than those that are recommended? How does it compare with other
2x teleconverters? Is there any known difficulties in using it with any
specific focusing screens? What should one expect to pay for one in
excellent condition?

Albert wrote:

Do the Tokina Teleconverters protrude, or no? Can I use my 50mm and 90mm with them?




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