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Re: [OM] Re: Fungus data - reply to Dan

Subject: Re: [OM] Re: Fungus data - reply to Dan
From: Donald Shedrick <shedridc@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:01:51 -0700 (PDT)
Don't you get dust from the silica coming out of your sock?

--- whunter <whunterjr@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Silica gel is a very simple inorganic compound, but there are some 
> proprietary formulations with respect to the particle size etc.  
> 'Premium' versions have a color indicator - - believe it is an
> organic 
> dye, but name escapes me at the moment - - which indicates degree
> of 
> saturation by color change.  Reviewed several pdf files available
> on 
> the web last night.  There is no fundamental reason the basic
> silica 
> gel can not be recycled ad infinitum.  The organic dye indicator,
> as 
> would be expected from an organic, tends to degrade with repeated 
> heating cycles.  While there may be some change in the physical 
> configuration of the granules, this does not appear to adversely
> impact 
> the effectiveness.  I buy bulk material, pour it into a cotton sock
> so 
> thickness is about 2cm or less then knot the end - - and the toes
> if 
> holes present!  Nothing glamorous here.......   Most people feel 
> compelled to pour the gel granules into a pan then heat at circa
> 300° 
> in an oven to dry.   Too much fussing for me.  I have been placing
> the 
> filled sock on a plate in the microwave and heating for some
> arbitrary 
> time, circa 3-5 minutes.  I then remove and rock up and down to
> provide 
> some circulation and let the moisture evaporate from the cotton
> sock.   
> If the sock remains damp, just repeat.  (VERY scientific :^)),  but
> 
> extremely effective and QUICK.  Once dried, I store in a large
> glass 
> soup pot with a lid.  When packing a camera bag in rainy weather or
> for 
> an extended trip, I just use the silica gel socks to pad lenses, 
> camera, etc. in my gear bag.
> 
> Was hesitant to mention the microwave drying earlier lest the
> slings 
> and arrows never end.  This is kitchen science, not a procedure
> known 
> to be 'certified'.  All bless the web.  Found a pdf file on the web
> 
> from one of the large suppliers which gives all and infinitely more
> 
> that one would ever want to know about reclamation of silica gel. 
> This 
> document verifies that microwave heating is effective albeit more 
> difficult to titrate.  An old cotton sock, bulk silica gel and a 
> microwave - - - pragmatic, cheap and effective.  The microwave
> drying 
> cycle is so quick and easy that even I can tolerate!!.
> 
> I'll send the other data later.  It is in HTML and PDF and not sure
> if 
> it can be distributed on the newsletter.  Can someone tell me if a 
> small PDF file will fly???
> Hope this helps.
> 
> On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 07:33  AM, Wayne Harridge wrote:
> 
> > I was talking to a bloke tonight and he reckons silica gel can
> only be
> > dried out and reused a few times.  Is there any basis to this - I
> > assumed it could be dried and reused indefinitely ?
> 
> Almost missed the last question:  Heating to circa 115°F / 38°C is 
> essentially hot sunshine.  This will not 'sterilize' the spores. 
> Key 
> is that virtually all fungus spores just do not grow/propagate
> above 
> 32-35°C.  They STOP growing.  Fungal spores are EVERYWHERE in our 
> environment, the air, water, etc.   It would be hopeless to attempt
> 
> 'sterilization' unless maintained at surgical room standards.  The
> key 
> is understanding that the fungi just stop growing above ~35°C, a 
> temperature to which equipment can be stored without risk - - - 
> presumably.   Fungus will grow at least down to freezing
> temperature.  
> We all know it will grow on food in the refrigerator.  Elevated
> temp is 
> the simplest remedy at home and my personal opinion says silica gel
> is 
> practical for travel if you deal with it on a simple basis. 
> Exchanged 
> several interesting notes with CH Ling last night.  I misunderstood
> his 
> original post.  He has a food desiccator appliance or box designed
> for 
> what I would expect to be used for drying fruit, etc.  Very fancy,
> but 
> a bit expensive IMHO.  An insulated box such as a hot/cold picnic
> chest 
> with a latch and tiny light bulb inside should accomplish all the 
> heating that is needed.  A thermometer can be inserted through a
> hole 
> in the lid to monitor.  This is a creative group.......  All you
> really 
> need to know is lower the humidity or raise the temp and your Zuiko
> 
> lenses will be protected.
> 
> Regards,
> Bill
> 
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