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Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist

Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
From: "Timpe, Jim" <Jim.Timpe@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:42:41 -0800
Yes.  I believe Esnipe does, too.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Hermanson
>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:36 AM
>To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>
>
>Ebay owns Paypal, right?  Atleast that's what I read recently.
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>John Hermanson  www.zuiko.com
>mail:  omtech@xxxxxxxxx
>Camtech, Olympus Sales & Service since 1977
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <fred42@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:21 AM
>Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
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>> Hello all,
>>
>> When I got emails after my auctions being ended due to the 
>4lause I 
>> had
>added eBay quoted that it is law in the state of California, 
>specifically relating to credit card surcharging. Not having 
>read the law or being a lawyer  I can't confirm it more than 
>that. Perhaps if anyone has a merchant account in that state 
>they can help us out with this one.
>>
>> I am under the impression that Paypal's fee scale is competitive to a
>merchant account. Looking at the other companies offering 
>credit card processing (Andale, 2checkout) their fees are a 
>little higher and they cite that it is less than the setup and 
>maintenance on a merchant account.
>>
>> Personally I have been feeling like eBay and Paypal have become a 
>> little
>bit too business oriented in the last couple of years. By that 
>I mean the bulk/drop shipping fixed price market. I have come 
>to realise that high shipping/handling charges are part of 
>this too. I hate it when I have to put in a higher shipping 
>and handling cost to ensure that I am not out of pocket with 
>the Paypal fees, but the alternative is that I get my auctions 
>ended and/or piss off buyers (I have had people refuse to pay 
>extra for Paypal, in fact back before I had to take out the 4% 
>clause not a single person actually paid it). eBay said that I 
>should incorperate the fees into the selling price of the 
>item. Which is fine for a fixed price new item but a second 
>hand item has a more flexible price. And anyway I want to be 
>sure that I recover the best value of the item; to me the cost 
>of shipping and Paypal is not part of the value of an item.
>>
>> My experiences with Paypal have made me realize that every 
>time I use 
>> that
>Visa/MC card about 5 0s going to Visa/MC. I think it it sucks 
>just as much everyone here, but everyone of us that uses one 
>of these cards is paying them already and the businesses we 
>are paying have to have that 5 0n mind when pricing there 
>services. If you wanted to buy shares of something then Visa 
>is a serious one to consider given the way society uses their 
>services (a nice stat is that over xmas the average usage of 
>cards is about 4500 transactions per SECOND, a 35 0ncrease 
>over normal).
>>
>> Anyway gripe mode off. ;)
>>
>> I am still going to buy stuff on eBay but my selling habits may 
>> change.
>>
>> Dan S
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Hermanson <omtech@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:41 am
>> Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>> > I doubt there is a "law" against it, it may, however, violate the 
>> > rules set be the credit card processor as in 
>"..........you promise 
>> > not to chargeextra cc fees to the customer......"
>> > ---------------------------------------------------- 
>> > John Hermanson www.zuiko.com
>> > mail: omtech@xxxxxxxxx
>> > Camtech, Olympus Sales & Service since 1977
>> > 21 South Lane, Huntington NY 11743-4714
>> > 631-424-2121 Turnaround 4-5 weeks
>> > ---------------------------------------------------- 
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "James N. McBride" <jnmcbr@xxxxxxx>
>> > To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:09 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>> >
>> >
>> > > I was informed by EB*AY that it is against the law to do that
>> > with credit
>> > > card fees (before or after the fact) but am not sure what their
>> > positionis
>> > > with PayPal fees. Asking for it after the fact is a bad practice
>> > and they
>> > > should be told "no".
>> > > /jim
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > [owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of IanG
>> > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:19 AM
>> > > To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I've been getting the opposite where I've paid by Paypal and
>> > subsequently> received an email from the vendor requesting an
>> > additional 2 or 3% to
>> > cover
>> > > Paypal charges - although they had not stipulated this in the
>> > listing.>
>> > > Ian
>> > >
>> > > <<snip
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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