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Re: [OM] Oly C5060 1 first impressions ?

Subject: Re: [OM] Oly C5060 1 first impressions ?
From: Frank van Lindert <Frank.van@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:03:36 +0100
Hi Titoy.

Only last week I had to make my choice between the C-5050Z and the
C-5060WZ, and after a thorough comparison I favoured the older 5050
model.
Main issue is that you will loose a lot of of light buying the 5060,
which I think is not justified by the wide-angle view being extended
from 35mm to 27mm. (I use a B-28 0.8x adapter for that, in the rare
cases I need it)

The difference in light (or speed) is 1.3 f-stops at the wide end, and
even 1,8 (!!) f-stops at tele end of the zoom range. 
I do a lot of macro photography, often in low light conditions, and I
try to avoid using the flash. You will understand that this was the
dominant reason to buy the C-5050.
Where the C-5050 lets you take a tele-macro picture at 1/50s, the
C-6060 would ask you to increase the shutter time to 1/15s!

Apart from that rumours have it that a comparison of the pictures made
with these cameras (or rather lenses, making the only important
difference there) shows some better quality from the 5050. I cannot
confirm this, since I have not done this myself.

Also I was not happy with the proprietary thread - or rather bayonet -
which Olympus has started to use on the new adapter tube needed for
the C-5060.
My auxiliary lenses, in particular my appraised B-300 (or TCON-17)
would have been made impossible to use with my new camera, that is
until - perhaps - third party bayonet-to-thread adapters have been
produced.

Olympus seem to take the same way of allowing only for their own
proprietary accessories by using a new kind of LiIon battery, instead
of the AA-cells used in the 5050. 
I must admit that I like LiIon very much, but I can easily use my own
7.2 V / 6400 mAh (or bigger) LiIon packs when plugged into the
connector for the net adapter. With the C-5050 I will rarely need
them, as it is a rather economic camera which runs very long from a
set of 4 NiMH cells. (But my LiIons do a lot of useful work with my
energy eating E-20!)

One last thing: if you would buy the C-5060 after all, do insist on
getting the older RM-1 remote control instead of the new RM-2 which
lacks quite a few of the functions of its predecessor!


go here for another comparison:
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/c5050/c5060-compar.html
The author owns both of the cameras, which I do not ;-)


Frank van Lindert
Utrecht NL. 


On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:41:41 +0800, "Titoy" <litefoot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>Hi B.D.,,
>
>Can you share with us initial feedback on the C5060? I am tempted to get one
>bec it has a 27 mm wide angle view.
>
>Regards
>
>Titoy
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [OM] E-1 first impressions
>
>
>"snip"
>
>> The E-1, on the other hand, seems to be built to take serious abuse as
>> much as any competitive DSLR is built to take it. BTW, yesterday my new
>> C5060 slipped off my shoulder, hit the kitchen floor, bounced down three
>> wooden steps, and had it's card door pop open. I closed the door, turned
>> it off and back on, and it functioned absolutely perfectly - without a
>> single mark on it.
>>
>> B. D.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pschings@xxxxxxx
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:39 AM
>> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [OM] E-1 first impressions
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/5/2003 11:26:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> bdcolen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>> > I don't think so...The "real pros" use Canon over Oly for three
>> > reasons
>> > - first, Canon came out first by a long time; two, most "real pros"
>> were
>> > already using Canon or Nikon equipment and were heavily invested in
>> it;
>> > and, third, the high-end Canon and Nikon bodies can shoot fast
>> > sequences, which some sports shooters need, and many more THINK they
>> > need...as though some of the all-time iconic sports images weren't
>> shot
>> > in the pre-motor drive era.
>>
>> I think you missed a fourth, and maybe the most important, reason so
>> many
>> pros use Canon: direct sponsorship and an extensive support network.
>> Something
>> Oly never had, at least not to the extent of Nikon and Canon, even in
>> the OM
>> system's heyday.
>>
>> If Oly wants to win over the pros they will need to convince them that
>> Olympus will be there for them providing gear and exceptional service,
>> worldwide.
>> What's the likelyhood of Olympus making a major presence at, say, the
>> 2004
>> Olympics (now there's a marketer's dream!) providing dozens or hundreds
>> of pros
>> with E-1's and 300/2.8's? Then they have to repeat that at major events
>> worldwide.
>>
>> John or Clint would probably have a feel for how likely that would be,
>> at
>> least from an Olympus America perspective, but I think we all can guess.
>>
>> Paul keeps-on-guessing-and-comes-to-the-same-conclusion Schings
>>
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