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Subject: Re: [OM] Re: ( OM ) OT OT Mike Moore OT OT and guns
From: "GeoW" <gwsears@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:57:42 -0500
You are proof that propaganda really worked. No more of a reply from me on this 
ridiculous post other than a bit of the 90% that you claim to have been fed is 
beginning to leak.

GeoW

My apologies to the list. Just couldn't hold back on this one.




On 5 Dec 2003 at 7:22, Alienspecimen wrote:

> 
> I do not know much about Yugoslavia, but in Kosovo the exodus of so
> many civilians was caused by the American airplanes.  Just dig around
> and you will find out the early NPR reports.  Then they were told if
> don't shut up, funding would be cut off.  So they reported what CNN
> reported... I am sure that you are not aware that our government (coz
> I am murican too) just overthrew the government of Georgia.  Reason:
> Oil.  And I really have a hard time believing that Saddam would take
> off with the chemical weapons and would leave the trucks loaded with
> money. I lived during Comunism in Bulgaria and as a responsible
> citizen got my news from different sources(we were not on a leash as
> the Russians, Romanians and many more were).  The broadcasts from
> Washington were very interesting...you want to know the truth?  The
> ratio of truth to bullshit what your government fed you (and us) with
> is about 90 to 10 (in reverse order).  On countrary, Those villains,
> the communists,somehow managed to get it 90% right...I know it sounds
> unbelievable, but you will have very hard time convincing me that they
> were more evil than your Government and they were the ones who wanted
> world dominance and here is your proof: We had special time at school
> dedicated go going to the movies several times a year to watch a war
> related movie (which would make the first 13 or whatever mins of
> "Saving Private Ryan" like a fairytale...).  You come out of the movie
> and your head feels twice the size from all the explosions...and then
> we had discussions.  Reason?  Never wish war, we need to know what war
> is, never forget and be aware of out future actions that may lead to
> one.  Qiet countrary to "Dont mess with Texas"  (or dont mess with us
> or we will invade you...:)Sorry, but during the Cold War your
> government was at war.  We did not wanted it. You would gain a lot
> more respect and your mistakes would be forgiven on the international
> arena if your government and the dirty capitalists from the big
> corporations really started speading freedom across the globe, coz at
> present they are just taking the "last shirt off the back of the
> poor"... Boris
> 
> This hath not offended the king.
> 
> Sir Thomas More (at his execution)
> 
> 
> there is what I decided to reply to:
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:55:17 -0600
> From: Jerry Liles <wliles@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] Re: ( OM ) OT OT Mike Moore OT OT and guns
> 
> Now come on, this is getting ridiculous.  Nobody forced you to take
> McDonalds, just like nobody forced us to take Fosters Beer or
> Australian wines.  Somehow I doubt Australian, or any other counties
> foreign policy could be called altruistic.  To lay the blame for all
> the world's problems and failures on the USA is foolish.  Who finally
> intervened in the Balkans to stop the massacres there?  The EU?  If it
> was up to them it would still be going on.   Who shouldered the
> greater burden of the cold war that kept Europe free to complain? 
> France?  Germany? Australia?  Belgium?  Would they really prefer being
> dominated by the Soviet Union?  Where was the outcry when the French
> tacitly aquiesed in the massacres of Tutsis in Rawanda?  I don't
> recall anybody complaining about the massacres of innocents in Iraq,
> but they sure can complain when someone tries to stop it.  France
> seems more interested in all the sweet deals it had with Saddam than
> in hundreds of thousands of lives. Now there's a solid moral position
> for you.  Perhaps you don't remember all the American GIs that died in
> the Pacific helping Australia protect itself from invasion?  It seems
> there is nothing we can do that is right.  If we intervene we are
> aggressiors, if we refrain we are cowardly.  Funny thing, it's the
> same people complaining.  So, if you don't like McDonalds, don't eat
> there, but do send us a better beer.  The wines are OK
> 
> 


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