Please note, that this is a mailinglist, not some www-based forum. Hence,
many of the suggestions are impratical or impossible to implement in the
context of the present OM list.
There are changes planned for the list in the near future, but not nearly
as draconian as those suggested by "Danrich".
--thomas
ps: Danrich, can I ask you to tone it down just a tad. Since you appeared
on the list, the most memorable contributions of yours have been
bickering over and attacks to fellow listees. We're not used to that on
this list, and we definitely do not appreciate it.
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:25:55 -1000
"Danrich" <danrich@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> ************************************************************************
> ****
>
> First of all Andrew, going to the lowest denominator by calling me in so
> many words a crazy party crasher doesn't show much intelligence or
> imagination but I do admit you do for an old fart take some good photo's
> not like some here that could use some lessons (last TOPE was sad).
>
> Now telling me to love it or leave it, doesn't fly because it would be
> better to love it and make it better.
>
> If you look at the last digest you will see some where in agreement to
> the vomitish overload of bullshit lately.
>
> ************************
> Gordon said;
> "My questions for Dan then, would be....
> What is it that you would like to see?
> What OM information would you like to share with us?"
>
> OK you ask, so listen for once.
>
> Gordon: Here's what would vastly help but sadly may never happen.
>
> Break the forum into category and topics that would stop the bullshit
> from plopping to the ground and give each person an avatar to protect
> them from there own social mistakes and prevent death threats from Idaho
> and the likes of keyboard courage.
>
> This would mean modernizing the forum and a way to imbed photos to the
> page instantly.
> Of course this would be a commitment to everyone donating a bit of
> $greenbacks$ and rotation of live monitors to filter or move threads to
> appropriate categories.
>
> Under OM Photo Presentations:
> Nature & Wildlife
> Landscape Photographer City, Still life & Abstract
> People Photography
> Black & White Vision
> Macro World
> Sports Corner
> Wedding Photographer
>
> These categories would bring the BS to a halt because you would be
> having too much fun.
> Assignments and critique
> Weekly Assignments
> Monthly Assignments
> Photo Critique
> Technical and aesthetic critique
>
> OM Gear-talk
> Len's Zuiko, Tamron est.
> Digital corner
> Lighting technique
> Editing & Printing
> Buy and Sell
> AND FINALLY.............. drum roll please.
> Bullshit Forum (there'd be no empty seat here ;)
>
> You may THINK I'm crazy and insensitive but I know what would work.
> This set up is not far off from the modern chat pages out there.
> I've had a camera in my hands since 1959 and loved it ever since.
> XDan
>
> ************************************************************************
> ****
> From: Mike <watershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Actually Dan has a point. When i connect my BS meter to the digest it
> has been pegged off the chart lately. Mind you i don't mind a bit of OT
> and participate myself. But the OM content has been pretty sparse of
> late or perhaps it gets buried in the chafe of the digest. Does this
> mean we aren't out taking pictures? Or maybe interest in OM is on the
> wane.
>
> Mike
> -------------------
> From: "Jeff Keller" <jrk_om@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> I have to agree even the photo content on the list is sparse ...
>
> I vaguely remember Tamron made the long focal length lenses that could
> be
> broken down into shorter pieces but didn't know that Tokina had also.
> Does
> anybody have great things or even good things to say about them?
>
> - -jeff
>
> ---------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 14:33:56 -0400
> From: "Wayne Culberson" <waynecul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] OM sure right/also kit advice
>
>
> I am in agreement with you Mike. It seems the OT chatter and one line
> quips
> and replies has almost totally dominated the list lately. Maybe it is
> the
> holiday season, or just a passing thing. But I was also wondering if the
> interest in OM things is starting to fade.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 15:21:25 -0700
> From: "Gordon J. Ross" <gordross@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] OM sure right
>
> Hi Andrew:
>
> Here-here! Ironic that someone who's only contributions to the list in
> the
> last month have been invective and school boy taunting should suddenly
> be so
> concerned over OM content.
> Honestly there is probably a great need for that person to seek
> counselling,
> when looked at from this perspective- there is no suggestion that can
> be
> offered that will be understood by him in an adult way. When I first
> joined
> the list it was full of Dan's BS, there were apologists for him and I
> sent a
> similsr suggestion to yours. Guess who's next? It is indeed pitiful, and
> so,
> perhaps compassion is in order.
>
> My questions for Dan then, would be....
> What is it that you would like to see?
> What OM information would you like to share with us?
>
> Gord
>
> From: "andrew fildes"
> Dan
> This sarcastic posting is designed to irritate and it succeeded, thus
> feeding your sense of aggrieved injustice even further. You are clearly
> unhappy here, but like the drunken gatecrasher at the party, you seem to
> revel in the discomfort caused by your presence. A polite suggestion. If
> the
> list does not suit your needs or personality, perhaps you might be
> happier
> elsewhere?
> AndrewF
>
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