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Subject: [OM] Re: Grain with APX100 in Rodinal?
From: "Earl Dunbar" <edunbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 08:01:30 -0400
Good luck and let us know how it goes. I agree with you about his writing 
style; takes some effort to sort through to the actual meat.  I have some 
APX100 awaiting soup... I am anxious to try DD-X with it, but maybe just one 
role with Rodinal?  Now I have an actual decision to make.   Damn, I hate it 
when that happens!

Earl

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On 8/4/2004 at 7:54 AM Chris Barker wrote:

>I will give it a go with less agitation Earl.  Nothing I have 
>photographed is too good for the experimentation ? to some degree at 
>least... ;-)
>
>I have, of course, saved the page, for all my criticism of his writing 
>style ...
>
>Chris
>
>On 4 Aug 2004, at 2:37, Earl Dunbar wrote:
>
>>
>> As I understand it, in my "senior-moment/curmugdeonly" brain, the 
>> higher dilution results in a more "gentle" action that has advantages 
>> for acutance, less grain clumping, etc.  There IS a balance between 
>> this and wet time... nothing is free. Fine grain developers such as 
>> Microphen and Microdol achieved their affect by silver solvent action. 
>>   Fine grain, yes, but reduced acutance and perhaps reduced tonal 
>> separation.  The tradeoff was acceptable and reasonable to some, but 
>> not to me. A chaque son gout.
>>
>> In addition, Mironchuk talks about higher activity resulting in 
>> greater contrast in the highlights.  I suppose this is the same as 
>> reduced tonal separation.  In any event, I have always been fond of 
>> Rondinal and HC-110.  They seemed to provide me with qualities in 
>> negatives that, while sometimes hard to describe, were superior to 
>> those of D-76, etc.
>>
>> I had a similar predilection for Amidol for prints.  A PITA to work 
>> with (especially very long times in the tray), but results that were 
>> not achievable with Dektol and its clones.  (When I did use Dektol, it 
>> was 1:3, not the standard 1:2.)
>>
>> Earl
>>
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>> On 8/3/2004 at 7:20 AM Chris Barker wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for that Earl.  I might give HC-110 a go once I have finished 
>>> my
>>> Rodinal.  Mr Mironchuk's writing style is more polemic than didactic
>>> and there is a contradiction: why go for a dilute developer for longer
>>> wet time when he is trying to reduce wet time?  His views on agitation
>>> are interesting; I always try to use the manufacturer's recommendation
>>> and the time I agitated less I had rather streaky results ...
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On 3 Aug 2004, at 3:33, Earl Dunbar wrote:
><|_:-)_|>
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