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[OM] Re: OM 40/PC release problem

Subject: [OM] Re: OM 40/PC release problem
From: Vera Grimm <Vera.Grimm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:52:52 +0200 (MET DST)
HI,

First of all: Thank you all again for the valuable information !

In my opinion both cameras had different problem. In one OM PC (the
one with the erratic winder with the faulty contacts) the little
gear at the bottom of the camera where the winder is connected to it was
"stuck" half way. That means the camera was actually not spanned (this
mirror charge lever relaxed) and therefore the shutter could not released
because it was not spanned at all. It was pure mechanical, a kind of overwinding
from the faulty winder. A soft kick with the screw driver at this little
gear and wups - fixed.

The other camera (do not worry, this one I would never send in to
Camtech since I have nearly completely disassembled it and want to go further,
very fascinating this nano mechanics ! Thanks to my digital Olympus I can
document every step, very important for the reassembly.) has some more
problems. The sprocket shaft could be
broken in this one, the rewind knob it very hard to press, sometimes it
blocks completely. I will continue to think about this part.

Furthermore  the circuit board  could be broken indeed or one
of the switches as you pointed out earlier. To test this I first have to read
a bit more how to test the electronic circuits :->


Oh and Rob,

could you please describe a bit more detailed what is meant by broken
plastic release shaft ?

Thank you all again !
Vera






On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, John Hermanson wrote:

> It is not clear if the camera can be wound and fired normally, but the
> rewind button always stays down.  If the rewind button is stuck down (it
> should pop up automatically the first time you wind) that means the sprocket
> shaft (the metal assembly inside the plastic sprocket piece inside the film
> chamber) is broken.  The sprocket shaft is different for each model and is
> very hard to find for the PC.  Often a junk PC will be stripped down, only
> to find that part is already cracked.  A shaft from a 2S could be used, but
> then the rewind button must be manually held down while rewinding film.  The
> part that breaks on the PC is plastic and (IMO) is way under-engineered.
>
> John Hermanson
> Camtech Photo Services, Inc.
> 21 South Lane, Huntington, NY, 11743-4714,
> 631-424-2121, www.zuiko.com
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vera Grimm" <Vera.Grimm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "John Hermanson" <omtech@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [OM] Re: OM 40/PC release problem
>
>
> > Hi Hermann,
> >
> > thanks very much for your fast answer!
> >
> > Nevertheless I do not think that in this case the circuit is the problem.
> > It 'feels' more mechanical, like
> > the film advance mechanism is overwinded or so. In one camera the
> > rewind knob is 'pressed all the time' as if the camera awaits beeing
> > rewinded and does not get the 'ready' signal. That's why I disassembled
> > the first one but had to give up at a certain point (without proper
> > explosion
> > diagram a difficult task). Strange is the fact that it happend two times
> > when handling the film advance lever, once manually and the other time
> > with the
> > winder with two different cameras.
> >
> > Batteries are fine.
> >
> > Where could I find the bad trigger switch you mentioned ?
> >
> > Thanks again very much for your answer !
> >
> > Vera
> > P.S. In my Olympus collection are already some nice OM'S although a 4Ti is
> > missing. ON the other hand  a nice digital one has just found its way
> > to my home :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, John Hermanson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> While B is a mechanical reset position in the 2, 2N, 2S, 4, 4T, 4Ti, it
> >> does
> >> not link mechanically to the shutter in the PC (OM-40).  The condition
> >> you
> >> are experiencing is common to many PCs.  Problem may be bad trigger
> >> switch
> >> but also may be fatal circuit problem.   Sometimes replacing the
> >> batteries
> >> 'fixes' it, but not in the long run.  As an afterthought, I'd sooner
> >> suggest
> >> a good clean 2N or 4T.
> >>
> >> John Hermanson
> >> Camtech Photo Services, Inc.
> >> 21 South Lane, Huntington, NY, 11743-4714,
> >> 631-424-2121, www.zuiko.com
> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Vera Grimm" <Vera.Grimm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:30 PM
> >> Subject: [OM] OM 40/PC release problem
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> >
> >> > please excuse in advance any stupid or non adequate described question,
> >> > I
> >> > am new to the field of do-it-yourself-camera-repairs :-)
> >> >
> >> > I got a cheap OM 40, everything worked just fine until the mirror got
> >> > stuck. Fresh batteries solved the problem until the next one occured.
> >> > After spanning I could not release (fire)  any more. Nothing helped:
> >> > setting to B for resetting, changing batteries, rewinding the film.
> >> > Nothing did change the situation as of beeing spanned and not be able
> >> > to
> >> > fire.
> >> > Pushing the button does not trigger any reaction. The mirror is down
> >> > and
> >> > the curtain
> >> > closed. Thinking it could be a mechanical problem
> >> > I started to disassemble the camera. Was not successfull, I
> >> > was lucky to reassemble it with only one srew left over - the problem
> >> > remained.
> >> > So I bought an ew OM PC (also cheap in ebay), excellent condition,
> >> > everything perfect, brilliant pictures until I bought a winder2 and
> >> > attachted it to the camera.
> >> > The winder had obviously a problem with the contacts, started to fire
> >> > sequences erratically with or without film. I turned the winder off
> >> > quickly, but now my new OM PC has the same problem as the old one
> >> > :-<<<<
> >> > Lever is spanend (hope these are the correct words), nothing happens
> >> > when
> >> > pressing the relase button.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone help me ??? This drives me completely crazy !
> >> >
> >> > Thank you in advance
> >> > Vera
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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