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Subject: [OM] Re: OT Flat Bed Scanners DRAFT
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:50:35 -0800
Dean Tyler wrote:

>Thanks for the post Moose.  There is clearly an improvement at 4000 dpi.  I
>will need to upgrade my scanner soon.
>
Don't assume the result will always be better. I'm still experimenting. 
I've got one Portra 400VC image where the graininess and detail resolved 
are better in much of it at 4000 dpi on the new scanner and graininess 
is worse than at 2720 dpi on the old scanner for much of the rest. Quite 
puzzling and disturbing.

>I have a feeling the prices on
>scanners may drop significantly next year.  Now I wonder if there is a
>noticeable (for better or worse) in final output, say 11x14, from an dslr
>vs. 4000 dpi scanned chrome.
>
You are covering a lot of ground here. A DSLR at 100-200 iso, and even 
higher for some will look much better than film of 200+ iso, unless you 
want grain in the particular subject. Even at equal isos, DSLRs have a 
smoother image with less graininess. Some people like this and some 
don't. Assuming equal lens quality, technique, etc. apparent detail 
resolution at reasonable viewing distances will be about the same, I 
think. It's so hard to tell without true side by side comparisons of the 
same subjects with the prints adjusted to comparable brightness and 
contrast.

>To my eye, C.H.'s posts showed slightly better color in the slides vs. E-1, 
>but it seems that is simply a workflow adjustment.
>
Yes. All slide films have their own color rendition characteristics and 
DSLRs have considerable adjustment to color and contrast available.

>I think Doro mentioned more depth in scans verses dslr.  I
>admit being very impressed with the "sharpness" of many dslr posts, but I
>also see some dslr pics that look "plastic" do me.
>
Web images just aren't a fair comparison except for those where the full 
orignal is posted or available. The plastic ones are mostly 
overprocessed. I may even have done that myself on rare occasion.  :-) 
The images on DPreview are straight from the cameras and the full 
resolution is available. They aren't RAW images and are 8 bit, so you 
are a bit limited in what yo can do to them but they are still a good 
way to get an idea of what the camera does. Once downloaded, you can 
process as you wish and print to see what they look like at a good size 
on paper.

Moose



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