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Subject: [OM] Re: Slide copying with Olympus E1
From: "David Irisarri" <div2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:54:08 +0100
Hi Moose,

Thank you very much for your comments on this topic.
I´ll have to look for some chemical products for flattening my film srtipes 
and re-scan them again.

Regards,


Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 1:12 AM
Subject: [OM] Re: Slide copying with Olympus E1


> David Irisarri wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>The other day I was thinking that I am starting to fed up with my Nikon 
>>LS-4000, scanning all my family slides and negatives. Why? My workflow is 
>>the following one:
>>I load Vuescan and I scan every slide at full resolution and then I use 
>>bicubic reduction to 1:2 to store my LS-4000 raw images into my 500 Gb 
>>RAID. I have stored thousands of images but the main problem is film 
>>flatness. LS-4000 depth of field is so small and these slides and 
>>negatives are so bent that it´s really impossible to get corner-to-corner 
>>sharpness.
>>
> Exactly what my research concluded, which is why I rejected the Nikon
> scanners and bought a Canon FS4000, which has DOF and autofocus that
> make questions of sharpness in the scanning itself a non-issue.
>
>>But after these odd work I must optimize every image within Vuescan to get 
>>the final IMAGES to put them all together with Ulead Media Studio into my 
>>Family DVD.
>>
> After a recent experiment, I am convinced that one excellent way of
> getting scans from VueScan that require minimal post processing is to
> make or get film profiles. I previously posted about my first effort:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Now I didn't do anything careful, controlled and scientific. I just put
> an IT8 target down on a flat surface in the sun and took a shot if it in
> the middle of a roll of Portra 160NC. When I got the roll back, I
> started scanning it as usual until I hit the target shot. I then did the
> profiling. When I took the shot, I was having trouble with reflections
> in the glossy target, which was also curling a bit, so the shot of the
> target wasn't square and perfect, as you can see. The profiling worked
> well anyway, and I was quite impressed with the results on subsequent
> frames. I then went back and rescanned the first frames. The differences
> are quite remarkable and greatly reduce any PS adjustment needed. I
> don't know about those with great color sense like C.H., but to me the
> colors are exceptionally accurate. Of course, I have the target and one
> of the other subjects right at hand to compare. Anyway, here are some
> examples. Luckily, the roll is mostly of shots taken out on a wander, so
> I was able to select a lot of different subjects, lighting, etc.
> Examples are just as they came from the scanner, no other processing
> except for downsizing <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/VuesProf/>.
>
> With a film profile, about all there is to do is watch for the white
> point on shots with strong reflections. You can see 2 different WPs in
> the 2 scans of the car, I actually like the effect on the lower one
> better, even though more of the sun reflection is blown out.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> That doesn't, unfortunately, answer the question of what to do about
> older films where one can't buy a new roll and include IT8 target shots.
> The Advanced Workflow section of the User's Manual proposes a solution
> and I've seen posts on the Google group:comp.periphs.scanners forum
> saying it works, but my first effort left a greenish cast in the
> results. And the way this works, the cast is in the RAW files. More to
> research there.  In the meantime, I have or am getting rolls of all
> still available films of the same type as my old images.
>
>>Why not usign slide duplicating with OM to 4/3 adapter and then process 
>>all the images with PHASEONE CAPTUREONE PRO? Speed, wonderful colour, 
>>sharpness, 4:3 aspect ratio for TV, etc... They only problem is dust but I 
>>think is not going to be a trouble due to sharpness won´t be so high; I 
>>suppose!
>>
> Well, you have posed the million dollar questions which I haven't yet
> seen answered by empirical testing. First, will the results be sharp
> enough to better your film scanner? Second, how bad will dust be? My
> suspicion is that the answers are going to be unfavorable for the slide
> copier, but that's just a guess.
>
>>Please I´ve never have made this type of work and here in Spain I cannot 
>>buy anything related to OM. What could I buy to do this work with PRO 
>>results?
>>
> Consider a third approach, a high end flatbed scanner. The reviews of
> the Epson  4870 and 4990 and the Canon 9950F place their results with
> 35mm film above the older generation of 24-3200 ppi film scanners and
> almost equal to the properly focused results from an LS-4000
> <http://www.photo-i.co.uk/index.html>. Probably actually equal for
> anything but very large prints or extreme crops. All of these have
> effective hardware dust removal. The Epsons can scan scan 4 strips of up
> to six frames each or 8 mounted slides at once the Canon can do 5 strips
> or 12 slides at once. And they all add MF capability to the 35mm. The
> 4990 can even do 8x10 film and potentially a whole roll of 36 film
> images. I'm not sure just what you mean by PRO results. If you mean
> sharp scans with good color balance and dynamic range and IR dust
> removal, all these will deliver. You do need to be aware that
> essentially all digital images need some sharpening, and that this is
> especially true of flatbeds used for film. The reviews clearly show what
> the issue involves.
>
> Moose
>
> Moose
>
>
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