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Subject: [OM] Re: More Fuel on the Film/Digital Dialogue
From: Winsor Crosby <wincros@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:57:46 -0700
Actually something similar is what pushed me into digital. I did a  
side by side on tripods of my 6 month old Nikon Coolpix 5700 5MP  
against my OM4T(I forget the slide film. Provia, probably). I figured  
that if the Coolpix was halfway decent at all in comparison, I could  
justify a DSLR. I framed them the same.  I scanned at 4000dpi with a  
good film scanner and downsized the scanned images until the subject  
sizes matched the ones from the Coolpix.  I did not have noise  
reduction software yet. So I did not do that part. I could not see  
any difference in the detail recorded. One was essentially grainless  
with accurate color and the scanned film was grainy and had to be  
corrected for color if I wanted to print it. That was at sizes 100  
percent or less. When increased beyond 200 percent the  film held up  
better.

I was blown away by the result and got my DSLR and later did a side  
by side with the Coolpix in normal daylight conditions. The DSLR was  
definitely better to my eye, I think because of the bigger pixels  
sites and the better lens. I have no doubt someone might be able to  
satisfy themselves the other way. Certainly some photographers on  
this list that I respect a lot including you, say so.

I find your explanation of the behavior film grain is interesting.  
Wouldn't it still be black or white though, not really contributing  
to recording of fine detail if it was larger? Wouldn't you argue that  
it recorded the most detail when it stayed fine and separate?

It shows me that his explanation does not capture the complexity of  
what is going on, especially if you consider the multiple layers in  
color film. And I suppose that one could argue on the side that since  
a true RGB scan should be so much better than Bayer interpolation the  
difference should be larger than it actually is.





Winsor
Long Beach, California, USA




On Jul 23, 2005, at 12:30 PM, AG Schnozz wrote:

> Want proof?  Take a high-res scan of a slide, do some noise
> removal on it and then downsize to the same pixel count as the
> digital camera image. Sharpen a little and compare.  Wow!  What
> happened to the grainy skies?  Sometimes it helps a film image
> to dumb it down.  And you have the benefit of not going through
> a Bayer array correction algorithm.
>
>


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