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Subject: [OM] Re: Post processing light distribution [was white balance madness]
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 04:30:32 -0800
Chuck Norcutt wrote:
> I've been meaning to reply to Moose's post so I guess now is as good as 
> any.  Perhaps Moose is just being his normal pedantic self but my first 
> reaction to the mods to the bedroom and patio shots was; "Hey, yes, tell 
> me how you did that.  I want to know."  And that was followed by "It's 
> been overdone and looks unnatural."
>
> The bedroom photo has corrected the hotspot from the flash on the 
> ceiling and brought up the natural light from the window which shows on 
> the wall.  But it has also brought up the brightness at the viewers end 
> of the room and the bed with no apparent light source to do so.  I think 
> a better photo would use the bottom half of Jeff's photo and the top 
> half of Moose's.
>   
As I said in my original post and my reply to Jeff, I'm not trying to 
make something perfect, or even photographically correct here. I'm 
trying to show how lighting can be evened out with minimal post 
processing time and effort. His house shots exist for one reason only, 
to be attractive enough to get people to look further without 
misrepresenting the property so that they will feel cheated whtn they 
visit it in person. Once the house is sold, the images are trash. They 
don't stay on the piano or in the family album like your portraits.
> I could also accept the bedroom photo as is but I can't say the same for 
> the patio shot.  To me, the patio shot was taken in another solar system 
> with binary suns.  That's the only way to explain the light from the 
> weaker red giant that is illuminationg the patio while the G class star 
> sets in the front yard.  Very interesting mods and I'd like to know how 
> to do it but I think he forgot to use the opacity slider on the 
> adjustment layer.  :-)
>   
Nope, intentionally done to approximate early or late light from the 
opposite direction making the patio look warm and inviting. From the 
direction of the shadows, I imagine this is something like what the 
patio would look like in more ideal light without having to go back. A 
portrait of the patio would simply require a different time of day to 
look right. I don't see how to do it right in post.
> I have similar feelings but to a much lesser degree on the kitchen shot. 
>   Things are brighter but I can't tell where the light might be coming 
> from and it looks just a little unnatural.  
I agree to some extent. This was a challenge to myself to see how close 
I could come to taking a disaster and making it acceptable. And I spent 
too much time on it. The black fridge came up noisy so I did a separate 
layer for it to tone down the reflections without bringing up the black. 
For your and Jeff's purposes, I assume such badly lit interior shots 
would not exist in the first place. I siply had no lighting but the 
built in flash.

The light is odd partly because the room is odd. Directly to the right 
of the camera are more windows and behind it the room continues into a 
large dining area with multiple french doors to the camera's right and 
behind it., so there is a lot of indirect sunlight coming from behind. 
The room is huge and a strange mish-mash with odd nooks and crannies 
mixed with large open spaces not used for anything. The kitchen part is 
actually quite poorly designed for actual cooking. Trust me, I used it. 
The house and grounds are really amazing, with many elegant touches and 
some quite strange ones

The two story gazebo room is soon to be replaced with a sun room of 
stained glass recently purchased off some fancy house in England and 
shipped over. The gravel for the paths in the formal rose garden was 
shipped over from a favorite beach in Cornwall. Start to get the picture?
> The library on the other hand is just perfect.  Wish I'd a'done it.
>   
Thanks, the shot is good because the library is pretty perfect. It's 
from the old part of the house, as opposed to the remodeled part or the 
big addition. Twere it mine, would change some furniture, but nothing 
else about the room. I don't think anyone actually uses it. She has a 
very large office in the addition and he has an office suite over the 
meditation room and four car garage.

Moose

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