Ok Thanks Chuck
Not having owned a digital SLR - I know little about them (which makes
choosing one sooo much more difficult on a small budget). I know that the
pixel count isn't the be all and end all of digitals. My 2 MP Olympus
Camedia compact takes reasonable pictures that are adequate for standard
snaps/prints. I've owned more film SLRs than I care to think about. My Canon
A1 and Olympus OM2 take great pictures - but are unsuitable for some of the
things I have in mind. I'm not impressed with the results of negative
scanners either. The Fujis are/were attractive because I can afford to buy
one of them brand new without any further saving. I can just about afford a
quality s/h entry level DSLR such as a Pentax *Ist, Nikon D50 or Canon
300D/350D with, say, 18-55mm standard lens. Or something similar. So I think
I will look at what the camera exchange shops have to offer first - my Town
doesn't have one unfortunately :(, but there are some towns and cities
nearby that do.
My Paypal account is screwed due to split with my partner (who the Visa card
belonged to) and, following my recent probs with the eekbay seller I'm
loathe to send off another cheque. I will have a digital SLR or digicam one
way or another soon. I think the Fujis looked so attractive being an hassle
free buy from a shop that's part of a reputable national chain. I think it
was Ali who offered me an affordable s/h Olympus E500 offlist but I'm loathe
to send a cheque (or other payments) for £300+ to the USA. If he lived in
the UK, it wouldn't be a problem. I'd just come and collect it and pay cash
:)
So I think I'll take a visit to the towns and cities near my town and look
in the camera exchange shops where I can at least test the camera on offer
to some extent, collect and pay in person. I know beggars can't be choosers
lol - but I sold my OM 10, 20, 30, OM2 SP and Minolta 7000 to raise the cash
for the digital - figuring I've still got my classic OM2, recently bought A1
and STX1 for film photography. The A1 is lacking at lenses having only a
prime 200 MM Soligor f4.5 at the moment. For £30 I can get either a Canon FD
28mm wa plus a FD 50mm standard Canon lens for it from a friend of mine - or
get a motor winder and Kiron 28 - 85mm, F2.8-3.8 Canon fit lens from the guy
I bought the A1 off. I've looked through the Canon wa and standard lenses of
my friend and they are lovely bits of glass as you'd expect from Canon. One
of the attractions of a 300D or 350D is that I can use llenses from the A1
on it. So the 350D on eekbay seemed the ideal buy. Anyway, enough about my
probs. The main thing is I'll have a digital camera soon and make the
selling of the OMs worthwhile.
Allan
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>From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
>To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [OM] Re: Eekbay
>Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:47:20 -0500
>
>I've just been looking over the specs of these two cameras and frankly
>don't understand why you want either one of them or why you consider
>there's not much difference in the speces. I think there's a huge
>difference and don't think that either one is really suitable for the
>"commercial" side of your interests rather than the fun side.
>
>I didn't pay much attention to your requirements in a camera until you
>mentioned your intention to do studio photography with lights. Granted,
>you didn't say flash, but the s6500 has absolutely no provision for
>external flash. The S9600 has no PC connection but there are at least
>multiple ways to adapt a hot shoe; my favorite being a cheap ebay radio
>slave. But the S9600 is clearly playing the megapixels game by stuffing
> 9MP into a tiny sensor. Blah!
>
>I think you can do better with a used DSLR.
>
>Chuck Norcutt
>
>
>Allan Mee wrote:
> > Thanks AG
> > I'll let you know what I eventually end up with. I'm still drawn to the
> > Fujis. The reasons for this are:
> > The S9600 has a 9MP Super CCD HR sensor and costs £350 while the S6500fd
> > Zoom has a 6.3 MP sensor and costs £300.
> > Both cameras are brand new (not refurbished) from the Jessop's National
> > chain and would have all the warranties/guarantees and will be sealed up
>and
> > unused and I can walk in to my local Jessop's and just buy one - cash.
> > There's not much difference in specs between the two cameras and I'm
>pretty
> > sure that the 6.3 MP of the S6500 will suffice. I don't need face
> > recognition software (I hope lol) - but both cameras have it. I have
>£330 to
> > spend (and at a pinch I could add another £20) - but if I bought the
>lower
> > priced S6500 it would give me £30+ to get a couple of s/h lenses for my
> > Canon A1. The lens of both Fuji cameras is a fixed lens, namely the
>28-300mm
> > (35mm equiv) Fujinon zoom lens. There are some advantages of this - it
>is a
> > good range of focal lengths (and ideal for what I want to use the camera
> > for) and you don't have to fit or change lenses - so a bit less likely
>to
> > miss a shot (especially since the lens is always ready - no moving in
>and
> > out during powerup of the camera - unlike most compacts with optical
>zoom).
> > Being fixed, the lens protects the camera's innards from dust. The
>camera
> > 'knows' what lens it has and has been fully tweeked and optimised for it
>I'm
> > sure.
> > Both cameras have built-in flashguns but the dearer S9600 also has a
> > hotshoe. So my decision (if I go for a Fuji) is whether I get the 6.3 MP
> > S6500 and a couple of lenses for my A1 or spend another £50 more on the
>9 MP
> > S9600 with hotshoe. My main reservations about the Fujis is their
>compact
> > size. Both look like mini DSLRs - but would my 'average' customer sat
> > looking at one stood on top of the tripod think it's a DSLR? That, at
>the
> > end of the day, is the biggest worry I have about the Fujis. I know
>that,
> > photography wise, the cameras are fine. I assume (and hope) that a
>couple of
> > lights and tripod might help the customer's perception - and I'm sure
>they
> > will be happy enough with the pictures (standard prints and up to A4
>sized)
> > if reasonably priced.
> > Think the best thing to do will be to walk in Jessops and have a play
>with
> > both Fujis - take a couple of shots and see. I'm definitely not risking
> > buying on eekBay. If I have to, I'll travel to some nearby towns and
>check
> > out the camera exchange type shops for a s/h Nikon D50 or D70, Canon
>300D or
> > 350D or Oly E500 or something like that. Must have a lens with it
>though.
> > Allan
> >
> > PS No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large
> > number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly
> > inconvenienced. (And threw a party for them afterwards for being really
>cool
> > about it).
> >
> > Disrupting the unnatural balance that you, as a conscious human being
>and a
> > confused mass of energy, have created.
> > -Disturb the mind -
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: AG Schnozz <agschnozz@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>Reply-To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [OM] Re: Eekbay
> >>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:37:36 -0800 (PST)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>At the moment I'm
> >>>>not in a mood for doing any more saving up so I'm tempted to
> >>>>go out and just buy a SLR lookalike such as the Fujifilm
> >>>>Finepix S6500fd Zoom (Digital...
> >>
> >>Almost three years ago I did this by purchasing a Minolta A1. I
> >>considered it to be a "bridge camera". They key to this is to
> >>get a camera that truely is designed as a camera and not a piece
> >>of consumer electronics. The Minolta fit the bill very nicely
> >>with an outstanding lens and a feature set that screamed
> >>"professional". It's main drawbacks were:
> >>
> >>1. fixed lens, but an outstanding lens with 28-200mm equivelent
> >>zooming range.
> >>
> >>2. smaller sensor, but 2/3" really isn't that bad. When shot at
> >>lower ISOs, the image quality is just fine.
> >>
> >>3. slower autofocus.
> >>
> >>But the camera allowed me to delay the purchase of a DSLR by an
> >>entire year and with the 49mm filter ring was interchangeable
> >>with my filters and accessories for the OM system. That delay
> >>saved me as much money (by the availability and dropping in
> >>prices) on the DSLR as I spent on the camera in the first place.
> >>
> >>At this point, if I were you, I'd look seriously at trying to
> >>snag a used E-300 or 350D. I'm not sure that shutter life is
> >>that much of a concern unless I was getting a D30, D60, 10D, 20D
> >>or Nikon D70. Those cameras were typically used by professionals
> >>and easily were pushed to their design-life limits. For
> >>example, my A1 has well over 20,000 shutter clicks and my E-1 is
> >>approaching 20,000. This would be considered "light duty" for
> >>any full-time pro, and "moderate" for most part-timers like me.
> >>I'm averaging about 15,000 per year total.
> >>
> >>In the Olympus brand, I'd suggest that the E-300 is probably the
> >>real "sleeper". Get the battery-grip for it and it's actually a
> >>really nice setup.
> >>
> >>AG
> >>
> >>
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