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Subject: [OM] Re: KEH "BGN" grade
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:03:43 -0500
Thanks for the info.  I don't have another event coming up until 
December 16 so I don't need the flash right away.  I'll be gone to my 
son's place over Thanksgiving so I'll wait until I come back to call Tim.

Chuck Norcutt

ScottGee1 wrote:

> Chuck, if you don't need it quickly, I suggest called KEH, asking for
> Tim and ask him to pull a couple of the 540EZs for you.  Typically
> takes a day for him to get them in hand.  Then he can describe them
> and you can decide which way you want to go.
> 
> Yes, KEH allows returns for any reason BUT after you pay their minimum
> shipping cost ($13) and pay return shipping, you might as well go for
> an "EX" rated one.
> 
> Be aware that they often have multiple examples of an item of the same
> rating.  Meaning, they could have eight 540EZs in "BGN" condition but
> list them as a single entry on the website.
> 
> I've stated this here before, but since the question has come up again
> . . . I think KEH is getting lax regarding ratings.  I've had to
> return some "BGN" items that simply do not work correctly or do not
> meet their own description standard.  Unless you think it's OK for a
> "BGN" lens to have a chip out of the front element.
> 
> I also think their shipping charges are too steep.  Order a lens cap
> and you'll pay $13 for ground shipping.  I used to work for UPS and
> trust me, an account that ships at KEH's volume level gets significant
> discounts.  B&H is smart enough to offer reasonable shipping, KEH
> could do the same.  IMO, of course!
> 
> FWIW/ScottGee1
> 
> On 11/20/06, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>>Anyone with more experience than I buying from KEH care to translate
>>KEH's bargain grade description for me with respect to a flash?
>>---------------------------------------------------------
>>"Bargain" 70-79% of original condition. Shows more than average wear.
>>May have dents, dings and a goodly amount of brassing and finish loss.
>>Glass may have marks that should not affect picture quality.
>>----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>At the last event I shot I finally realized that even the 5D and 2.8
>>lenses can't see in near total darkness.  I need a flash with an
>>autofocus assist light.  Since I always shoot flash in manual mode I
>>don't need the near $400 top-of-the-line Canyon 580EX.  The long
>>discontinued 540EZ is just as powerful, has an 8 stop manual control
>>range, has a longer range on the AF assist (15 vs 10 meters) and is
>>relatively cheap because there is no regular auto mode and the TTL modes
>>it offers are for film only and are not compatible with any Canyon
>>digital camera.  In other words, lots of desirable features but
>>absolutely no automation with digital.
>>
>>KEH has a sale on certain grades of the 540EZ.  The BGN grade is only
>>$65.  But EX is $94 and EX+ is $109.  These are big jumps.  I gave up on
>>trying on the bay since those crazy folks over there are paying more
>>than the prices at KEH.
>>
>>Anyhow, is BGN just a little scuffed up?  Maybe just has somebody's
>>velcro stuck on there?  How happy will I be that I've saved nearly $30
>>in buying BGN over EX?
>>
>>Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>>
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