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Subject: [OM] Re: Advice needed: list transaction going poorly
From: "Paul Martinez" <pdmphoto@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:28:13 -0800
I'm resending this from my home account. The other account is my work email
account.

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Subject: [OM] Re: Advice needed: list transaction going poorly


I'm the same way when I buy elsewhere (questions, questions, pictures,
pictures), but I've always been more relaxed here on the list. Maybe I'm
wrong, but I've always considered the list to be more of a safe haven when
buying. That works both ways for me. I've sold my share of OM lenses here.
As a courtesy to list members I try to be conservative in my rating and am
up-front about anything unusual or non-standard. If you are dissatisfied
with anything I sell, then you have the option to return it for a prompt and
courteous refund. I thought that's how it's supposed to work around here?


Adjectives? No mention was made of anything except some wear on the aperture
ring, which if you know OM lenses almost all have after some use. This lens
has much more than that on the aperture ring, and other obvious cosmetic
(not to mention the mechanical) issues. I question that if someone didn't
notice an issue when they put a Pentax K cap (which reads Sigma for Pentax K
on the outside) on an OM lens, then maybe they didn't notice a wiggle in the
focus ring too? You can force a Pentax K cap on the back of any OM lens, but
not without unusual effort, and it still doesn't sit right on the lens.


I have shipped many, many lenses in the last few years (had to sell all my
35mm Minolta AF stuff a couple years back) and the packaging on this lens
was not sufficient to protect the lens. It is possible the lens was damaged
in shipping. But it can't be blamed on USPS. All shipping companies throw
packages around in transit, and that needs to be considered when shipping. I
find the *free* small square (8x8x8inch?) USPS Priority Mail boxes perfect
for lenses like the smaller Zuiko's. Wrap the lens tightly in a big ball of
bubble wrap, put it in the box, and then pack the box with Styrofoam
peanuts. The box will have plenty of "crush zone" and if it takes an impact
hard enough to damage the lens, the box/peanuts/bubble wrap will show it.


I have been following Zuiko 50/1.2's for a while and I think it's incorrect
to say they have been going for over $300. Sure, the one like new in box on
ebay just went for $380 - but that is an exception not the rule. For one, I
have never seen another sold in that condition. I have seen a good share go
for less than $250 in the last year - and while they weren't like new, they
were all in much, much better condition than the one I received. Condition
is everything when it comes to used lenses. Is that news to anyone here (or
in the rest of the photography universe)?


Paul



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From: "Jeff Keller" <jeffreyrkeller@xxxxxxxxx>

>
> I almost never rely on adjectives when selling or buying. Use good
> pictures and point out the defects so that people can look for them in
> the pictures.
>
> Stuff gets damaged in shipping. I shipped a bunch of cameras to John.
> One was a like new OM4T. The top plate picked up a severe dent. Every
> thing was individually wrapped in bubble wrap with additional bubble
> wrap and styrofoam peanuts to keep everything from moving. It's hard
> to imagine how one camera got damaged since it had to be the result of
> colliding with another camera in the box. The dent had to come from a
> sharp edge perhaps a wind lever or maybe the hinge on a body. I had
> wondered if the box had been opened, but John didn't think so.. Next
> time I'll probably use boxes inside of boxes.
>
> The 50/1.2 zuikos, that I've seen sell, have been going over $300. On
> the other hand the condition seems to be more and more important. Take
> lots of pictures.
>
> -jeff
>
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