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Subject: [OM] Re: WTB
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:33:45 -0800
If that Quantry 500 mm f 8 is the same as my Seimar, look in the birds
folder here, I just added 5 pics.

I forgot to mention we had a breeze, the bird was trying to keep it's
balance frequently before it gave up watching me, realizing I wasn't
flushing a meal for it. I'm going to have to purchase some dead mice for
this bird to pay it back for sitting still 20 minutes at a time for me so
that I can learn to use that LONG manual lens, as I have only had the tripod
available once and that was when it was at the closer distance.

I had the shutter at about 80-100 though had it in auto for some time too.
Focusing isn't as easy as it appears, as it looked good, and just the
tiniest bit of movement to the barrel and it gets better or worse. I tossed
a whole lot of pics, though the trip pod would have helped a little, but not
with the breeze!

Focusing is the hardest part for me, wearing glasses then also trying to
look around the corner to see the data inside the camera. I figure this is
as good as the lens gets, I'm not going to throw it away, though I still
want more crispness.

Now, I want a sharper pic, Quantry is out, Oly is in, unless I can find a
real cheapy deal on a Tokina or Tamron. I'll keep this mail for later
shopping data Moose, thanks!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/sets/72157594514187851/

Scott

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Of Moose
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:26 PM
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Subject: [OM] Re: WTB

Allen Coltrin wrote:
> Then I will post my list again.
>  
> I'm looking for some long ranged lenses or mirrored as well. I would hope
to get either an Oly (I have the 300mm/4,5.), a Tanron, or a Tokina. My
budget right now is about $100. I know it's not much but I have found some
on ebay as well, but would like to see if anyone has something they want to
go to a new home. Just so you can see what I'm looking at.
>   
It is not at all clear what you are looking for from your list. In fact 
it seems a little schizo to me. For example, 100-300/5.6 is relatively 
small, light and slow, and overlaps your excellent 300/4.5. 80-200/2.8 
is fast, but bigger and heavier, and doesn't seem to fit in with all the 
longer lenses you list. It is also an excellent lens, and if it goes for 
less than $100, a real steal (called a fang in local argot).

I suggest that you sit back, take a deep breath, and define what you 
want a lens to do for you. I've bought a lot, too many, lenses on the 
'Bay. the ones I've regretted have been the ones where I rushed into it, 
without thinking out what I wanted.

Trust me, there is no rush. There are jillions of lenses of the type you 
are looking for, and they will continue showing up on the 'Bay forever.

You say you are on a limited budget, yet are looking at all sorts of 
different mounts. Are you looking to buy just one lens, or one to add to 
what you have and form the basis of an eventual set of several covering 
different needs. If the latter, choosing one mount and sticking to it 
makes a lot of sense - and saves money.

It might help to define what you want to do with these lenses. For 
example, most long zooms and long non-mirror lenses don't focus very 
close. So if you look down and see a pretty flower while using a Tokina 
AT-X or Tamron SP 80-200/2.8, you won't be able to get close enough for 
a good shot. If, on the other hand, you are using the smaller, lighter, 
but slower, Tamron SP 60-300/3.8-5/4 or Tokina AT-X 50-250/4-5.6, you 
will be able to shoot just the center of the flower, if you want, 
because of their wonderful macro capabilities.

If you are primarily looking for a long single focal length lens, you 
should consider simply getting a good 2x telextender for the 300/4.5. 
That gives you a 600/9 lens that will likely beat the pants off a 
cheapie 500/8. The Zuiko 2xA is the class act in telextenders for this 
purpose, but here are a lot of quite good 7 element ones out there 
cheap. Avoid the 4 element extenders. The way to tell the difference is 
that the 4 element ones are about an inch long while the 7 element ones 
are just over 1 1/2 inch long and generally have the number 7 in the 
model number. They were sold under all sorts of names, but all look like 
they came off the same assembly line, except perhaps the Tamron.

I haven't finished my personal long lens testing, but the 300/4.5 & 2xA 
combo looks quite good.

When you say Tamron or Tokina, there are a couple of things to remember. 
Tokina lenses all come with specific mounts, so one marked Pentax K. for 
example, only fits that mount or 4/3 adapter for that mount. All of the 
Tamron top quality line, SP, are adaptall lenses and may be adapted to 
almost any MF mount. So, for example the lone Tamron SP 60-300 on the 
'Bay at the moment is listed as Pentax mount, but all that shows is the 
ignorance of the seller. With different Adaptall2s, it can fit all sorts 
of mounts 
<http://cgi.ebay.com/Tamron-SP-60-300-mm-Zoom-Lens-for-Pentax_W0QQitemZ19008
3171250QQihZ009QQcategoryZ4688QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite
m190083171250>. 
If the price stays low, it's a good bet.

Also, Tokina made lenses in a bewildering number of designations. AT-X 
is almost always good and many SMZs are excellent. Back before all this 
labeling proliferation, those marked RMC are usually good to excellent. 
Tamron covers almost everything in their SP line.
>  
>  
> TOKINA 100-300MM 1:5.6 LENS ebay # 150091920095
>   
Konica mount, no workee.
>  
> Tokina 80-200mm f/2.8 AT-X Lens for Olympus # 180085873050
>   
Great lens! Make sure it has the tripod mount. Matching hood is 
important too, although less so.
>  
> Tokina 500mm 1:8 Lens for Canon 35mm Camera w/2 filters # 290083590626
>   
I've recanted my thought that FD lenses might be adaptable, no workee
>  
> 500 mm Mirror Lens For Minolta #  230092462231
>   
No workee on E-500
>  
> Olympus OM series 500mm f/8.0 Lens #  270091145448
>   
Quantary brand, might be ok, but why take the risk?
>  
> Reflex-NIKKOR-C f 8 500mm w/leather case # 320083883845
>   
This will go for more than your budget.
>  
> 500 mm f8 / 1000mm f11 lens for Minolta XD/XG SRT MC/MD # 110093590208
>  
> TOKINA 400mm f/5.6 - NIKON AI-S # 320084289533
>   
No workee on E-500

Moose

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