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Subject: [OM] Re: OT colonoscopy
From: Jan Steinman <Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:05:01 -0800
> From: Mark Dapoz <md@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> As for the ever growing delays, according to the Ontario governemnt  
> itself
> here are some real (although incomplete) statistics (http:// 
> www.waittimes.net):
>
> Knee Replacement: 357 days

My Mom waited a year to have a knee done... on Blue Cross, in Michigan!

One thing is true for a single-payer system: you can gather stats  
like that, giving your enemies free ammunition. In the murky US way,  
it's not so simple.

In my Mom's case, she was bounced around from specialist to  
specialist, test after test, forced to endure countless non-working  
cheaper alternatives, before they finally agreed to give her a knee.  
I have no idea how anyone could possibly wade through all the bloody  
paperwork -- which is surely costing something -- to come up with a  
wait-time statistic. In fact, her perspective is that a lot of the  
run-around she got was so that they could generate "good" statistics  
-- prove they were doing something. ("Patient treated successfully  
for pimple on knee -- case closed. Tests for other patient complaints  
are proceeding.") But the first doctor she saw said she needed a  
knee, then the insurance company made her jump through hoops for over  
a year.

So, in Ontario, the government makes you wait a year, and in  
Michigan, the insurance company makes you wait a year. Which is  
better, the socialist year or the capitalist year? :-)

I think people are whipping numbers around that they simply don't  
understand, just to prove their case. I'll stop it (except for the  
occasional randomly selected signature line) if everyone else will.


:::: Nature must, in the not too distant future, institute bankruptcy  
proceedings against industrial civilization. -- William Catton ::::
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com/Van> ::::



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