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Subject: [OM] Re: Which lens would you choose
From: "Allen Coltrin" <hjlantern@xxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 11:31:19 -0800
Their to be had for around $150,, but they don't have all the goodies. No 
case, or caps, or filters. Dick, did you find your mini to work better or 
worse  than any of your other standard lenses?

Allen

----Original Message Follows----
From: Richard Ociepka <ociepka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [OM] Re: Which lens would you choose
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 11:19:10 -0500

I have a Tokina SD 35-200mm Macro f/4-5.6 with red line and red double
tilde. No RMC.
I remember paying $200 for this 30 years ago.
They called it the Tokina Mini.

Dick


Scott Peden wrote:
 > I have the Tokina wit the red tilde and the RMC, so that boils down to 
just
 > fancy salesmanship for a Multi coated lens.
 >
 > Thanks for the extra data and history, means that bit of knowledge is 
likely
 > to 'stick' as I have more reality on what it means and WHY, me being the
 > sort of person that is either 100% Why or, just let me drive it, OK?
 >
 > Of to Monterey Bay Aquarium!
 >
 > Pic to follow! (I hope there is something good enough to post :-)
 >
 > Scott
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf
 > Of Moose
 > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 1:27 AM
 > To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
 > Subject: [OM] Re: Which lens would you choose
 >
 > Scott Peden wrote:
 >> I have RMC on a Tokina 28 mm 1:2.8
 >>
 >> I too would be interested to know if that is a standard designation that
 > is
 >> a step up from a MC.
 >>
 > No. When multi-coating started, the major camera manufacturers mostly
 > just so labeled their lenses, first often spelled out, then often
 > becoming simply MC.
 >
 > Pentax and some of the independent lens makers used their onw special
 > designations, essentially, one assumes, as marketing . So the Pentax
 > 50/1.4, for example, first became the SUPER-MULTI-COATED TAKUMAR, THEN
 > THE SMC TAKUMAR. Oly went the low key, way, adding simply MC and later,
 > when it could be assumed all lenses were multi-coated, dropped even that
 > designation.
 >
 > Tokina's version of the MC label was RMC and a little red logo sort of
 > like a top and bottom tilde with two vertical lines connecting them.
 > This came before the AT-X (Advanced Technology) line of lenses. When
 > AT-X came along, there was nothing in the manuals, at least the ones I
 > have, about RMC, but the label and logo remained on the front ring of
 > the lenses.
 >
 > The other lovely confusing thing is new optical glasses. Some called
 > them ED, Extra low Dsispersion, SD, Super low Dispersion, etc., and
 > sometimes indicated their presence with thin color bands on the lenses.
 > So most of the AT-X Tokinas have a thin red line near the front, but
 > wait a minute, at least two SZ-X series Tokinas are RMC with logo on the
 > front ring and have the red ring and SD glass. And there are AT-Xs with
 > yellow rings, instead of red, and ... aaaahh.
 >
 > It's essentially impossible to tell what's in many MF lenses unless you
 > have the manual or can read tea leaves. But generally, any marking
 > including "MC" means multi-coated and any littel colored ring near the
 > front means some sort of then new glass formula in  most often one 
element.
 >
 > In the end, it matters little, all but the very earliest zooms ar MC,
 > for the simple reason that MC is required for the many element designs
 > to avoid unacceptable light loss. And you can pretty much rely on the
 > Tamron SP (Super Performance), Tokina AT-X and Sigma APO as being their
 > best lenses. There are others in their lines that are good, but those
 > lines aren't uniformly so.
 >
 > Unfortunately, even that isn't always a clear indication of the best
 > lenses in any line. Gary's tests and the Cult classics site agree that
 > the pre AT-X Tokina RMC 28-85 zoom is slightly superior in performance
 > to the AT-X that came next, but the AT-X is smaller, .lighter and
 > focuses closer. So which is the better lens? Depends on what is most
 > important to the user.
 >
 > The most useful single source of info about all this is the Cult
 > Classics site <http://medfmt.8k.com/third/index.html>. Gary's lens tests
 > are also often useful, as he tested many third party MF lenses for OM
 > mount <http://members.aol.com/olympusom/lenstests/default.htm>.
 >
 > Moose
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