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Subject: [OM] RE : RE : Re: OT: French Empires
From: "stephan Van den Zegel" <stephan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:52:51 +0100
I would say that you could be confusing causality and relation...
Phenomena could be interrelated without a ontological causality, you can
state a relation between those facts but don't say it's the ontology of
the fact... This is thrue in various sciences (think about the role of a
catalyst in chemistry for instance)...
The fact that energy was cheap is a good reason... it's not the only
cause.
So we can be "both" right...
Stephan 

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> From: "stephan Van den Zegel" <stephan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> USA industry not only was unarmed by both WW, but the others were
> destroyed... allowing the American technology to claim the lead...

I have a different theory. I've actually done some formal research in  
this area, and may publish something someday.

US became dominant because of cheap fossil energy. Period. You can  
plot industrial output with energy consumption over time, on any time  
scale, and predict the dominant nation throughout history.

If energy is roughly equal, other factors can contribute, but in the  
mid-20th century, the US was awash in cheap energy. Germany's push  
into Romania and Japan's expansion toward SE Asia show that their  
leaders were aware of this.

Industry is simply the most visible manifestation of energy use.  
Industry can be quickly re-built, given enough energy. Look at what  
the Marshall Plan did to Germany -- financed by Texas Oil Money.

Since 1970, US oil production has been in steady decline. The movers  
and shakers understand this, and have supplanted *producing* fossil  
energy with *controlling* it -- it is almost all sold in US dollars,  
propping up a seriously over-extended currency and correspondingly  
over-extended empire. You think former ally Saddam Hussein was any  
kind of a military threat to the US? Get real! He was, however, a  
real threat to the house of cards propping up the US dollar, with his  
threat to trade Iraqi oil in Euros.

And this is the reason Iran is in trouble -- not because their gas  
centrifuges can turn out a few milligrams of U-235 every month, but  
because the Iranian Oil Bourse is traded in Euros.

:::: You can't have your SUV and eat it, too!
:::: (It takes TEN calories of fossil-fuel energy to produce EACH  
calorie of food.)
:::: Jan Steinman http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com



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