Having blown my wad on a 5D I can't afford a K10D. I've never even seen
one but I'm so taken with the specs that I'm going to own one of these
Pentax jewels some day. Unless, of course, the mythic E-thing manages
to turn my head before that fateful day arrives.
Chuck Norcutt
Larry wrote:
> Exactly my point. The dpreview test is just one flawed test due to lens
> inconsistency (and other test oddities). Even "optimum" aperture is an
> issue with the Pentax 50mm f1.4 as it has a pronounced curved field, and
> its older design wasn't the best or sharpest of the 50mm set. The 50mm
> f1.7 would have been far better if a 50mm was necessary.
>
> I wasn't "insulting" your 5D. It is obviously a great camera, serves you
> well, and gives you what you want. I was just commenting on tests by
> owners of both cameras after different experiences encountered compared
> to tests like dpreview along with taking things like understanding
> default settings can be changed and affect what a specific tester is
> looking for in his results.
>
> And yes, unchangeable noise reduction added to raw and no noise
> reduction added to raw on the K10D (except for the option of
> dark-frame-subtraction for hot pixels) can also make a difference in detail.
>
> The much larger sensor of the 5D makes it a bit of a tough comparison
> anyway to be saying the K10D RAW is "better". I don't own both. Other
> that do only said comparable at comparable ISOs. The K10D only goes to 1600.
> Though, it does retain more detail than the D80, 400D, 30D, or Sony as
> Photozone saw as lens dependent. (better color accuracy, shake
> reduction, and weather sealing aside).
>
> Larry
>
> Moose wrote:
>> Andrew Fildes wrote:
>>
>>> There you go again - I try not to be a platform bigot, to be all even-
>>> handed and that and then you insult my beloved 5D....
>>>
>>>
>> dpreview:
>> 5D with 85/1.8 @ optimum aperture:
>> Horizontal LPH = 2300
>> Vertical LPH = 2000
>>
>> K10D with 50/1.4 @ optimum aperture:
>> Horizontal LPH = 2000
>> Vertical LPH = 1800
>> Comment:
>> "Not that surprising to see the K10D under performing in our resolution
>> chart shot, this due primarily to the already discussed lack of
>> sharpness in edge detail (be this due to poor demosaicing or unusual
>> sharpening). Overall the biggest difference (versus the competition) is
>> in the horizontal direction." A RAW converted resolution chart exhibits
>> about 2200 LPH in the horizontal direction and 2000 LPH in the vertical
>> direction."
>>
>> Unfortunately, Phil didn't publish RAW results for the 5D, so we can
>> still all claim whatever we like. ;-)
>>
>> The other thing not addressed is resolution at higher isos. Noise may
>> have a significant effect on detail resolved and the visual quality of
>> that detail.
>>
>> Feel better now, Andrew?
>>
>> Of course, the K10D is obviously a great camera, too.
>>
>> Moose
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