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Subject: [OM] Re: Winston Was Wax?
From: "Jeff Keller" <jeffreyrkeller@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:43:10 -0700
Also  the half dozen or so Australians I have had much interaction
with locally had a very high confidence to performance ratio. The only
one I've had much interest in was the stripper. There's nothing like
professionally honed charisma to make a simple american feel good
about the world.

On 8/16/07, Jeff Keller <jeffreyrkeller@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Many American companies discourage the use of irony because the
> non-native english speaking people often don't understand. There are
> regular reminders at the company I work for to speak in simple direct
> language.
>
> Possibly irony is too closely tied to sarcasm in American history to
> be a desireable form of speech.
>
> Yes many Americans hope the world would be a straightforward, mutually
> supporting place to live, and act accordingly when possible.
>
> -jeff
>
> On 8/16/07, Andrew Fildes <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Americans 'get' irony just fine, so long as it's signalled.
> > I've posted before my thesis on this effect.
> >   The argument goes something like this -
> > 1. For Brits and many Europeans, irony is the standard mode of speech.
> > 2. For Americans, it is not – they use a more direct mode.
> > 3. Consequently, Europeans tend to see murrkins as a bit simple or
> > gullible and
> > 4. Murkins see Europeans as devious and deceitful.
> >
> > That probably destroys my argument too.
> > Andrew Fildes
> >
> >
> > On 17/08/2007, at 5:51 AM, Winsor Crosby wrote:
> >
> > > Actually I think that the lack of ironical understanding in Americans
> > > is over sold. Often it is rude and mean spirited, a way to establish
> > > a pecking order, to "one up" someone you have contempt for, or
> > > someone who has too much power to confront directly. Even if it is
> > > not that type, one usually recognizes it as such, is not amused and
> > > lets it pass without comment.
> > >
>
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