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Subject: [OM] Re: [way OT] Re: How high's the water/presidential rant
From: Chris Barker <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:46:05 +0100
I'll reply off-line, Robert.

Chris

On 20 Jun 2008, at 07:56, Robert Burnette wrote:

> The Gulf of Tonkin incident and the resulting "Gulf of Tonkin  
> Resolution" passed by the U.S. Congress authorized the President "to  
> take all necessary steps, including the use of armed force, to  
> assist any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective  
> Defense Treaty requesting assistance in defense of its freedom."  
> With that resolution Congress authorized the Vietnam conflict (a war  
> by any other name, like the Korean "police action"). As then-Senator  
> Barry Goldwater explained it to us at an USAF Officer's meeting in  
> the early 70's, that resolution gave the President full authority to  
> wage war against North Vietnam. As he also stated, had the U.S. not  
> been ready and willing to come to the defense of any member of that  
> treaty, from that point on the word of the United States in the Far  
> East would have been completely worthless. Therefore, the U.S. had  
> no choice but to defend South Vietnam upon a request for assistance.
>
> The foundation for the Iraq War was laid in 1998 when Congress  
> passed and President Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act which  
> provided funds for a dissident Iraqi group to work towards creating  
> a democratic government in Iraq. Obviously, that required the  
> removal of Saddam Hussein and his government. In 2002, Congress  
> passed and President Bush signed a "Joint Resolution to Authorize  
> the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq." It authorized  
> the President to use any means necessary to prevent the use of  
> weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) against the U.S. or any other  
> nation. The preceding administration was convinced that Hussein had  
> WMDs and based upon his past history would certainly use them again.  
> This was also the conviction of our allied intelligence agencies at  
> that time. So Bush's administration did not perpetrate a lie  
> concerning Hussein's possession of WMDs as an excuse for war. It was  
> commonly believed to be true.


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