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Subject: [OM] Re: More Experimentation
From: "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:54:58 -0500
Thanks, Scott.  Your link came through broken, but I did a similar search 
and found two similar items.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:43 PM
Subject: [OM] Re: More Experimentation


>
> Yes, focus was moving the camera back and forth. In a couple of them I 
> used
> a macro rail, usually I just rested my hand on something but it was hard
> with a view finder so moved up to the 330.
>
> A reverse macro ring is cheap, as I recall about $20, usually the are a
> 4/3rds mount to a 58 mm ring, though I have added adaptors to deal with up
> to a 72 mm lens filter ring.
>
> I searched 4/3 reverse macro
> And got this, 14 dollars.....
> http://cgi.ebay.com/reverse-macro-adapter-58mm-for-Olympus-4-3-E500-300-E-1_
> W0QQitemZ320281450359QQihZ011QQcategoryZ30059QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi
> ewItem
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jim Nichols
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:32 PM
> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [OM] Re: More Experimentation
>
>
> Scott,
>
> Thanks for sharing your images and showing me what can be done.  For now, 
> I
> can get what I need from the 55mm and 2x, but I might find a reason to try
> your approach.
>
> How did you focus? Just by moving the lens and camera fore and aft?
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:59 PM
> Subject: [OM] Re: More Experimentation
>
>
>>
>> Reversing the lens allows you to get real close.... seriously close, 
>> close
>> enough you are blocking your light.....and doesn't allow you to back off.
>>
>> I think the links here are with a 14-45 reversed, hand held, as you have
>> to
>> move the camera closer or further way to do any focusing. Most of the
>> subjects are the width of a tooth pic. Usually only the center third of
>> the
>> FOV is in focus, sometimes I got lucky.
>>
>> And last but not least, it was fun.
>>
>> My rule of thumb that seemed to work was, 14 mm lens meant the FOV was
>> 14mm,
>> a 45mm lens was 45mm FOV (wide) I had extreme difficulties once I used 
>> 150
>> to 200 mm lenses, seemed most effective at about 60-100, and at that
>> point,
>> I was getting about the same thing as you can with a EX25 and 50 mm 
>> macro,
>> or a 35 mm macro (assuming your using an Olympus E series camera...... we
>> do
>> talk about these on this list, don't we :-)?
>>
>> I don't think I have any cropped shots in this list.
>>
>> Reverse Macro 14-45, E-500
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/404273753/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/403160554/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/403142621/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/391269067/
>> the crop on this was about 1/10th of the outside edges, looks like the
>> worlds tiniest cricket to me, that tall thing to the left is a moss 
>> branch
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/403142618/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/377604996/
>> a lot of 14-45 pics on this page;
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/page10/
>>
>>
>> Reverse Macro 40-150, E 500
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/370473789/
>> I now know this is commonly called a pixie cup
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/370473788/
>>
>>
>>
>> 50 mm Macro with EX 25 E-330
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/1737309220/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/2184431113/
>>
>> 50 mm macro reversed E-330
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/2184428325/
>>
>> 70-300 with EC 14 macro E-330
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55838750@N00/2185215308/
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Jim Nichols
>> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 4:20 PM
>> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [OM] Re: More Experimentation
>>
>>
>> Moose,
>>
>> First off, I'm cheap.  I use what I have at hand, or, can obtain cheaply.
>> I
>>
>> have a 50/1.4 Takumar, but have it dedicated to my film SLR.  That left
>> the
>> 55/1.8 and 2x extender free to play with.
>>
>> I assume that, to reverse the lens, the adapter would have to attach to
>> the
>> filter threads.  I really don't understand what this would do for me,
>> unless
>>
>> it would give me a different distance to the sensor which could be used
>> beneficially.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:41 PM
>> Subject: [OM] Re: More Experimentation
>>
>>
>>> I'm enjoying watching this little series of experiments.
>>>
>>> My first approach, given the lenses at hand and an M42 adapter, would
>>> have been to put the M42 Adaptall2 on my Tamron 90/2.5 macro lens and
>>> shoot away.
>>>
>>> As I think about it, I wonder if an auto bellows for the pentax screw
>>> mount exists. With double cable release, it would make things quicker to
>>> operate. But then with a standard lens, reversing it might give better
>>> IQ results, and that puts paid to aperture automation.
>>>
>>> Have you thought about an adapter to reverse the lens?
>>>
>>> An Inquiring Moose
>>>
>>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>> In past years, I have used a Takumar with a 2x extender to obtain
>>>> occasional closeups with a film SLR.  I wanted to find out what this
>>>> combination would do on the E-510.
>>>>
>>>> The linked shot was made with a Takumar 55/1.8 lens and 2x extender
>>>> mounted on a chipped adapter on the E-510.  Focusing was done wide 
>>>> open,
>>>> then the lens was stopped down to either 4 or 5.6 for the shot.
>>>>
>>>> I tried this technique with faster moving subjects and had no luck at
>>>> all.  This little fellow sat still long enough for me to get the job
>>>> done.  The lens combination appears to have possibilities if I can just
>>>> pick the right subjects.
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Another+Small+One.tif.html
>>>>
>>>> Critiques and comments welcomed.
>>>
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