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Subject: [OM] Re: Proofing old negatives
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:50:01 -0700
Warren Kato wrote:
> I just started looking at some old negs that I shot in the late 60's on a 
> Pentax S1a and a Ricoh Singlex TLS and later an OM1 and OM2(more color here). 
>  I have about 4 shoeboxes of B&S negs--thousands.  I just scanned a roll on a 
> Nikon 8000 scanner and can batch scan 12 at a time but takes forever to do 
> this.  I would like to quickly proof them.
>
> Has anyone set up a digital Zuiko with a slide copier so I can proof the negs 
> in a rather quick fashion?  I have the E330 and 50/2 I can use.  I can batch 
> the negs and invert them in PS.
>   

I have used Auto Bellows, Slide Copier and 80/4 on the 5D. On old film, 
late 30s Kodachrome, the results are fully comparable to 4000 dpi scans 
on a Canon FS4000. On contemporary film, the scanner captures more 
detail, but not a great deal for any use other than quite large prints.

Calculated dpi is about 3100. As some testers have suggested that 3200 
dpi gets pretty much what's available on 35mm film, my results aren't 
very surprising. Resolution with the E-330 calculates as 2200 dpi, which 
should be more than sufficient for proofs.

> Or what do any of you suggest?  

You say it takes forever to proof two strips on the N8000. Are you using 
low resolution? Nikon software?

My Canon 4000 dpi film scanner only handles one strip of negs or four 
slides at a time. I bought a Canon 9950F flatbed scanner specifically 
for batch archive scanning of the boxes of old film I have. It handles 5 
strips of film or 12 slides at a time.

I use VueScan for high resolution, high quality scans, which is somewhat 
time consuming to set up, and indeed runs for ages, but does so in the 
background.

For proofs, the Canon flatbed software is slick and anywhere from quick 
to not so slow, depending on how big you want them. The software is good 
at recognizing images and distinguishing them from blanks. It has an 
option to generate a proof sheet image. It took about 30 seconds for it 
to make this one. 
<http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Temp&image=Image0021.JPG>

Not a very inspiring proof sheet. With precut strips of four frames, it 
takes two loads to scan a 36 exposure roll, and this is the second half 
of the roll with the yellow lupine images I posted yesterday on it, and 
some other decent shots. I pressed to get images of the yucca flower on 
a day with low overcast. Some post processing may save them.

In any case, it shows how gracefully CanoScan software handles a load of 
partial strips. Scans at what its quick interface calls 150 dpi, but are 
obviously 600 dpi, as the images are about 900x600 pixels, take 7.5 
minutes for all 20 frames. Here's one. 
<http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Temp&image=Image0022.JPG>

Or one may choose an option that shows much the equivalent of the proof 
sheet on screen and allows one to choose which images to scan at any of 
several resolutions. 600x900 is about 4/10 secs. apiece. Larger sizes 
seem to me like overkill for proofs.

The one problem with these quickie 600x900 images is that they don't 
show sharpness. All digitally captured images need sharpening to show 
the full detail captured - and that goes at least double for flatbed 
scans of film. To activate sharpening in this software requires using 
the use of the scanner driver interface, which, along with sharpening, 
appears to roughly double the time per frame. The results give do a 
better idea of how sharp the film image is, though. 
<http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Temp&image=Image0023.JPG>

Having used DSLR, Auto Bellows, macro lens and slide copier, I'd say 
that it certainly works, but isn't my idea of a good solution. The 
problem is all the handling of film and equipment, where I would have to 
get each strip into the copier, frame each shot individually and take 
it. That means full, active involvement in each individual frame.

I'm not trying to talk you into any particular choice, especially any 
particular scanner. Particularly as I only know how the software for one 
works. I do hope I may have added to your knowledge to include more 
options than you may have considered.

Moose



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