LOL....actually you're right!If we were to go all the way to define
minimalism, then stick with certain fixed focal lengths such as 28mm, 35mm
and 50mm. But if we do, a lot of people won't be participating - well,
that's my guess. Some amongst us are so smitten with the 90mm f2 - and for
good reason of course - and they're not likely to warm to this idea.
K.
2008/12/10 Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 24-300 doesn't strike me as "minimalist" :-)
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
> khen lim wrote:
> > Hi there all of you
> >
> > By now you would have known that Ken and I discussed this 'competition'
> and
> > felt that Zone-10 can humbly offer a platform to provide gallery space so
> > that your images can be displayed collectively in separate member
> accounts
> > for all to view and appreciate. I for one am quite excited by this
> prospect
> > and hopefully all of you will take advantage and showcase your best
> images.
> >
> > With regards to the parameters, let us first deal with the issue of
> whether
> > or not this is a competition. I have given this a bit of thought on my
> own
> > although I have yet to discussed this with AG Schnozz. Here are my
> > thoughts:
> >
> > a. It's only a competition for the sheer heck of it. It's not going to be
> a
> > 'serious' one but one that draws all of us together like a community that
> is
> > partial to all things OM. Since this list is about those who appreciate
> OM,
> > then the competition is held in a similar spirit.
> >
> > b. As a competition, we certainly don't have the resources (not yet
> anyway!)
> > to provide a lucrative drawcard in the form of excellent prizes. AG
> > mentioned turning his OM-3Ti into an Odyssey camera. That is a nice idea
> and
> > a generous one on his part. All the same, we're not in the position to do
> > anything else unless others within this same community were to offer
> his/her
> > wares...I understand that NSURIT has some wonderful inventory to
> contribute
> > in this regard :)
> >
> > c. And so it is, in effect, a competition then, but my idea is that
> everyone
> > contributes individual points to the images on show. You visit an album
> > belonging to one of the competitors and assess the images, then accord
> them
> > individual scores, say, out of a perfect score of 10 for each. You may of
> > course ignore those images you don't think even deserve any scoring if
> you
> > like.
> >
> > d. After a certain period of time, we close all scoring and then tally
> the
> > images. We can, for example, suggest that the top five scoring images get
> > the privilege to participate in the OM-3Ti Odyssey (just an idea only -
> > ditch it if you don't like it or have a better alternative).
> >
> > As for the types of cameras that qualify, Chris (Crawford) had even
> > mentioned the 'Blad. Hmmm. Some others have suggested OMs other than the
> > 3/3Ti. The idea that all of you seem to be centring on is that so long as
> > you use it in Manual mode, it should be alright.
> >
> > I'm not sure what AG thinks of this but my humble opinion is that it
> ought
> > to be OM. Maybe we should think about keeping it 35mm and then stick with
> > OM. So long as you use Manual mode, you can use any of the following
> then:
> >
> > OM-1/1MD/1n, OM-2/2n, OM-2S Program, OM-3/3Ti, OM-4/4Ti as well as...
> > OM-10/10QD, OM-20, OM-30/G, OM-40/PC and OM-2000
> >
> > You might also include the following (although they are not full-frame
> > 35mm):
> >
> > Pen, Pen-EE, Pen-EED, Pen-F, Pen-FT, Pen-FV
> >
> > I suppose that there should not be any restriction to the use of focal
> > length lens not to mention brand. You don't have to stick to Zuiko but it
> > would be nice if you do. As for focal length, we might open this up or
> > should we confine it to a range, say, from 24mm to 300mm or something
> like
> > that?
> >
> > As for the topic, Minimalism is actually a very nice idea. However to
> define
> > it might be a little more challenging. Let's see what and how everyone
> > thinks of describing it. Maybe then we can 'formulate' the definition of
> > Minimalism within the context of this competition.
> >
> > K.
> >
> >
> > 2008/12/10 John Hermanson <omtech1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >> Yes, yes, OM-2 and OM4 (on manual).
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> >>
> >> Dawid Loubser wrote:
> >>> Hmm... I would imagine it's a more purpose-driven and specific
> >>> competition if using
> >>> manual-only cameras, but if there is enough interest for using 2's and
> >>> 4's
> >>> then so be it...?
> >>>
> >>> If we let loose on the OM gear that can be used, then I do think some
> >>> specific
> >>> guidelines around the subject matter are in order. So, does everybody
> >>> think
> >>> "minimalism" makes for a good topic for the subject matter?
> >>>
> >>> It would be interesting to see how you all interpret such a topic
> >>> photographically -
> >>>
> >>> Lastly, any idea around time frames? Perhaps its a good idea to look
> >>> at results after December,
> >>> since during this holiday period many people will have a lot of time
> >>> to photograph, but not
> >>> to process and think about things.
> >>>
> >>> And our enlarger's timer is still busted :-) *and* I still need to
> >>> learn to do hand printing
> >>> properly...
> >>>
> >>> P.S. I really do feel that it would be preferable to limit to OM-1 and
> >>> OM-3 (all-mechanical
> >>> bodies) - not because the result necessarily looks any different from
> >>> the electronic bodies, but
> >>> because it was my rant on the photographic process with an OM-1/3 -
> >>> which we have somehow "lost"
> >>> with modern equipment - which got this idea started, and those bodies
> >>> exemplify that process.
> >>> Not only that, they enforce it. Even though, of course, we can follow
> >>> it with any other body.
> >>>
> >>> I have been doing manual exposure + incident metering for quite some
> >>> time with my 9FPS Canon EOS,
> >>> which is why I could let it go so easily. But it's somehow not the
> >>> same thing.
> >>>
> >>> Your thoughts? And Wayne, I don't think an OM-3 has any advantage over
> >>> an OM-4 in terms of producing
> >>> the photographic result, so there may not be anything to see...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10 Dec 2008, at 4:18 AM, WayneS wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Further amend proposal: to allow shooting in manual mode on an OM.
> >>>> That way we can see if the 3Ti really has any advantage over
> >>>> a 4T for instance. And to really see if it works, to use slide film,
> >>>> which is less forgiving than print film..... As I recall, the shutter
> >>>> on the OM-4t is still mechanical, come to think of it, so is the
> >>>> E-1...
> >>>>
> >>>> WayneS
> >>>>
> >>>> At 12:51 PM 12/9/2008, David wrote:
> >>>>> Dear AG, now you are really stirring the pot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> May I propose an amendment to your proposal, whereby a shooting
> >>>>> event/
> >>>>> competition does not only include those (lucky buggers) who own
> >>>>> an OM-3Ti, but rather to include the mechanical bodies in general?
> >>>> ...
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