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Subject: Re: [OM] OT--A few New Ones
From: Joel Wilcox <jfwilcox@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:04:30 -0600
Great story. I see your attachment to the fingerless gloves.  Still,
I'm looking for something that is less "survivalist" in nature.  I can
keep everything warm enough for photography, which involves more
standing around than running to evade capture, except my hands,
especially if a tripod is involved.  Fortunately, with E-3, I don't
need to tripod as much as I have in the past.

I guess if I bother to do the math, the equivalent of -22F is more
like -30C -- not that it makes much of a difference -- it's just
bitter down there.

I should try to find out what glove Michael Reichmann uses, since he's
always talking about shooting with gloves and how good a camera is in
winter, blah-blah-blah.

I'll bet that herdsman got treated to a bottle of single-malt a few
weeks later if I know the RAF. ;^)

Joel W.

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Chris Barker <> wrote:
> I used something like fingerless gloves in fairly low temperatures in
> south Germany in winter.  I was on a winter survival exercise in the
> mid-80s in temperatures between -10 and -22C with gloves that were
> just covers for the back of the hand.  The palm was bare and the
> "gloves" were held on with loops around thumb, forefinger and little
> finger.
>
> They were gloves that were stored in the survival pack of the ejection
> seat and we were issued with them as the training was all about
> survival after ejection.  I still have the gloves and I used them a
> couple of weeks ago, although I don't think that I would be able to
> use them in temperatures like that now.
>
> The training was also for avoiding capture.  After 3 nights in those
> temperatures, sleeping in bags and tepees made from parachutes, we
> walked out in the evening to make a RV at around 0400, with German ski
> troops after us.  Our team of 3 found a friendly deer-herd who
> provided us with shelter for a couple of hours, beer and jam
> sandwiches, before driving us to a point around 1km short of the RV.
> So those gloves have sentimental value as well ... ;-)
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