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Re: [OM] ( OM ) Missed a nice lens :-((

Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Missed a nice lens :-((
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:37:37 -0700
Brian Swale wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A Zuiko 35-80 just slipped through my fingers !  Maybe it wasn't even close.
> See *Bay item 290319399823
>   

How much did you miss, really? At least based on the images you post 
here, low light without flash and/or tripod doesn't seem to be your 
thing. Maybe what ol' Walt had to say on the subject in 2002 will ease 
your mind:

> Yo, Gang,
>
> ...  There hasn't even been a minor brouhaha going, much less a major 
> controversy.  Too much agreement makes
> Zuikoholics dull boys (and girls).  So, consider this:
>
> I've had my fabled, much desired, jewel-in-the-crown of Zuikos, the 
> 35-80/2.8, for a few months now, and I am definitely underwhelmed.  My 
> 28-105/2.8 Tamron kicks its butt in zoom range, is at least its equal in 
> sharpness and contrast, and, for those who really concern themselves about 
> such esoteric BS, gives bokeh every bit as good.  (If you perceive a need for 
> the imagined magic of mystical and ethereal bokeh so as not to distract from 
> the subject of the picture you've taken, maybe you should've chosen a better 
> subject and/or been a better photographer.  If folks' attention wanders off 
> into the background of your pictures, you've been wasting
> film.)
>
> Further, unless always shooting from a tripod with mirror and diaphragm 
> pre-fire, as long as there's a reasonable amount of light, the 35-105/3.5-4.5 
> Zuiko is every bit as good, has more range, weighs and costs considerably 
> less, being a one-touch is quicker and easier to use, and it doesn't need 
> weird-sized filters that fit none (?) of the other Zuikos.
>
> So why am I disparaging this lens, especially since I may be offering it to 
> the highest bidder any day now, either here or elsewhere?  Beats me.  Maybe 
> it has something to do with the Christmas spirit. Or perhaps it's the 
> Christmas spirits. 
Maybe you just need a 35-105/3.5-4.5.  :-)   Walt doesn't mention how 
little slower than the 35-80 it is in practice. I don't know just what 
its speed is at 80 mm, but I'll bet it's no worse than f4.0, which is 
only one stop slower.
> Rose early to track and set things up for an 8.20am close
>
> Yes, I did use a snipe tool but the stupid thing bid 14 seconds prior!! 
> Clearly someone on broadband or a better sniper had an easy task.
>   

I agree with Chuck. I'll bet it was simply someone willing to pay more.

When I first used eBay, I was fooled by the excitement of the chase more 
than once into overbidding in the last seconds. Fortunately, I didn't 
always win even then. It seems to me that the prudent way to bid on 
items like this, if I really want it, is to decide how much I am willing 
to pay, set the snipe and forget it. Then, if I am anxious, add 10%.

When someone beats me by a small amount, my first thought is that I 
could have won for just a little bit more. But I can't really know that. 
The other biddre may have sniped at a much higher maximum that the item 
went for. I've been on the other end of that, pleasantly surprised to 
get something for significantly less than I was willing to pay. If the 
runner up thought he was just a few $ short, he was wrong.

If bidding on something I'm not sure I really want, or I am looking for 
a deal on, it's still the same thing, just a lower snipe bid. Patience 
with a string of lowish bids has paid off in the end for me quite a bit.

Moose
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