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Re: [OM] Best rechargeable batts for my Olympus FL-50R

Subject: Re: [OM] Best rechargeable batts for my Olympus FL-50R
From: David Irisarri <div2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:13:02 +0200
Hi Moose,

Wow!!! Thanks a lot for such a thorough explanation. I have been having 
a look and Sanyo Eneloop batts look great! Tomorrow morning I´ll go to 
the local store to buy them. It seems they sell them ;)

http://www.fotoartus.com/Index.php?s=17&cat=s

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,

Dave




Moose escribió:
> David Irisarri wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Next weekend I am going to my best friend´s wedding. I would take my E-1 
>> with my new FL-50R flash. I have been reading this test 
>> http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM and I am a little bit 
>> confused about some terms.
>>   
>>     
>
> One problem with the web is that stuff stays there long after its use-by 
> date. This article was written in 2002 and updated in 2005. Battery and 
> charger technology and brands/models have moved on since then.
>
>   
>> I know Energizer NiMH 2300 bats are excellent but they are 1.2V Can they be 
>> used in FL-50R or not?
>>   
>>     
>
> Yes. All flash units for at least the last 10 years, probably much 
> longer, operate correctly with NiCad and NiMH, 1.2v batteries. Although 
> it seems counter intuitive on the surface, in spite of the lower nominal 
> voltage, they are actually better for flash use than 1.5v alkaline 
> disposable batteries. Oly sells a NiMH battery/charger pack for the 
> FL-50R (wildly overpriced).
>
> 1. They have lower internal resistance, so they can deliver higher 
> currents for faster recharge times.
>
> 2. They have higher total energy capacity, so they last for more flashes.
>
> The best batteries for most users are Sanyo eneloops. Fully charged, 
> they have slightly less capacity than conventional NiMH batteries. 
> However, after maybe 3 weeks sitting after charging, they have about the 
> same capacity. After a year, they still have about 80% of a full charge, 
> while conventionals have long ago gone completely flat. For the amateur, 
> occasional user, the are far superior.
>
> Some other folks have copied Sanyo, both smaller brands and Rayovac and 
> Duracell. In the last tests I saw, they were good, but not as good as Sanyo.
> The only reason I can see for buying anything but the low self-discharge 
> models is in a situation like pro wedding/event photography, where MANY 
> shots are to be taken and perhaps carrying a few replacements and 
> switching when recycling time slows or at a natural break isn't desired.
>
> There is another issue, as well. Somebody gave me some Energizers and 
> the simple charger that came packaged with them. It, and apparently many 
> cheap chargers, simply works on a timer, pushing juice at the batteries 
> for a fixed period. This has two consequences:
>
> 1. Fully discharged batteries likely will not to be fully charged.
>
> 2. Slightly discharged batteries will be put under overcharge stress, 
> leading to reduced overall life. (Oddly enough, battery makers don't 
> mind if you have to buy replacements sooner, rather than later.  ;-)   )
>
> Earlier 4 battery chargers sold in eneloop combo packs were quite good 
> (like at least older Oly Camedia chargers), with separate circuits for 
> each cell and auto cutoff when each is charged. Current eneloop 4 cell 
> chargers only charge cells in pairs, but at least stop when full. By the 
> way, there is no difference in charger requirements for conventional or 
> eneloop and other low self-discharge batteries.
>
> When I did my last research a few months ago, I concluded the La Crosse 
> BC-700 was the best combo of capability and price in a separate charger 
> purchase.
>
> I have no idea how eneloops are packaged in Spain, but the packs with 
> 6-8 AAs and 2-4 AAAs, together with a 4-cell charger are a good deal 
> here. I use them for all sorts of things, so I've also bought some 
> separate packs of AAAs. The only thing they seem not suited for are some 
> elderly remote controls, where the lower voltage does make a difference.
>
>   
>> Which ones will give me the best recycling time and longer life? 
>>     
>
> As mentioned on the link you posted, the highest capacity NiMHs tend to 
> sacrifice useful life for maximum capacity when new, and don't age well 
> over many charge/discharge cycles.
>
> Moose
>   

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