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Re: [OM] The Gotcha of the Great

Subject: Re: [OM] The Gotcha of the Great
From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile <fgnzalez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:57:51 -0300
Interesting.

I cannot feel the same (as far as I can understand) you do, Moose -
Regardless who is speaking, I (since some-time before this very moment) 
tend to ignore the attribution of knowledge.
I'm tempted to self-explain why this is so for me. I know why, but never 
wrote it down systematically. I could, but it would be valid for me 
only. I'm not planning to write an autobiography, not yet ;-)
Just an example: a few minutes ago I read a sentence attributed to lord 
Kelvin, written in Spanish (I will not translate it to English, that 
would add more 'noise'): "Suelo decir, con frecuencia, que cuando se 
puede medir aquello de que se habla y expresarlo en números, se sabe 
algo sobre ello; pero nuestro saber es deficiente e insatisfactorio, 
mientras no somos capaces de expresarlo en números; podemos estar en el 
comienzo del conocimiento, pero nuestros conceptos apenas habrán habrán 
avanzado en el camino de la 'ciencia', y esto cualquiera sea la materia 
de que se trate".
I can clearly hear the value this statement has for lord Kelvin.
Then, it might be my own problem to asses how much value it has for me. 
This puts lord Kelvin in a place of 'subject of supposed knowledge'. I 
will explore his sentence, mostly in an unconscious way, and may be 
somehow convinced and somehow not. And I will take care not to argue 
lord Kelvin 'ad hominem'.

Wow, I've written too much English today ;-)

Fernando.

Moose wrote:
> Another in an occasional series of objections to the attribution of 
> knowledge, experience and opinions of another onto me.
>
>   
>  But put in the way you so often do, as some 
> universal experience, when so clearly some of it isn't, and you just 
> piss me off, so I can't hear the value in what you say.
>   


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