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Re: [OM] question for Doctor Monitor, if he exists

Subject: Re: [OM] question for Doctor Monitor, if he exists
From: "C.H.Ling" <ch_photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:33:31 +0800
You mentioned a budget one so I recommended the Core 2, I'm not expert, all
I heard is many software does not support Quad Core and it may only gives
little advantage. I'm using a Core 2 Duo 2.0GHz pushed to 2.5GHz. I'm very
happy with the speed even for editing a 120MB image. On the other hand if
you stitch big images than you may want a faster one. I'm using XP with 4GB
RAM, 2.5GB assigned as RAMDISK for used as PS cache, it is faster than any
disk cache.

Photo editing is absolutely non-demanding, even the slowest graphic adapter
works as fast. The most demanding one is 3-D game, it require 4-10 time the
speed of a normal entry grade adapter. I purchased a mid-end ATI 4670 for my
son which is five times faster than the entry grade ATI 3450 in 3-D
performance. Photo editing require fast CPU and RAM not graphic adapter but
the on board adapter take your system RAM which may affect the overall PC
speed a little so I recommend a stand alone one.

I only have an old Samsung 20" (1680x1050) which has RGB control but only
three gamma selections with no specified value. It calibrate ok but not as
good as my EIZO, I have my EIZO set to gamma 2.2 and it gives less than
+/-0.1 error for all color gamma. For monitor calibration I like this one:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php

C.H.Ling

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "khen lim"

I might go for non-branded mainly because of the versatility in speccing up
the system but the problem here is 'support.' That's where branded PCs offer
an advantage. I have to see how I can balance one with the other.You
mentioned Core 2 Duo. I understand Quad Core is now available. Any comments
on this?
You also mentioned ATi or NVidia for graphic adaptors. I concur with you on
this. However you consider photo editing to be 'non-demanding'. Now that is
interesting. If I'm working full-screen on an uncropped 12.3 megapixel image
using either CS3 or CS4, would you consider that non-demanding too? What
would 'demanding' be for you? I'm interested to really know.
Thanks for the Samsung recommendation for the display. Does Samsung offer
RGB individual controls on their monitors? I ask this mainly because if the
Samsung website is like others, there's fat chance I will find this out from
them.
Incidentally what is your Eizo display's gamma set to?

Thanks

K.


2009/8/13 C.H.Ling <ch_photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> I have four desktop PCs at home, they were built/upgraded myself. For PC
> it
> is quite simple, if you don't demand ultra high speed a 2.5-3GHz Core 2
> duo
> or AMD AM2 X2 dual core should be good enough. I like Core 2 Duo for the
> lower power consumption and AMD Low voltage 45W one for the same reason.
> The
> AMD will be cheaper but a little slower than a Core 2 Duo of the same
> speed.
>
> I recommend a separate display card from either ATI or Nvidia, some AMD
> system will have ATI display card built-in, they are ok for many non
> demanding purpose from photo editing to moive viewing. I don't like the PC
> with built-in Intel graphic card, their driver are too simple (with little
> control/adjustment). In any cases you need a PC with DVI or HDMI output.
> All
> display card today support image rotation.
>
> For monitor, if you can't afford a EIZO, I prefer Samsung. RGB adjustment
> is
> easy to implement, I had a six years old 15" Topcon that has this feature
> but without an external calibrator it could be confusing. My EIZO has both
> RGB and gamma adjustment, the gamma value is very accurate even after five
> years of use.
>
> C.H.Ling
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "khen lim"
>
> Hi all
> Big question for all of you - especially the budget experts:
>
> I'm looking to get a desktop PC and a 19-to-23" TFT panel for post-editing
> work
>
> There're two ways any of you can help me out here. If you know of a
> particular PC brand and model you can recommend, I'll take that advice
> onboard. On the other hand if you prefer, let me know what you think I
> should look for spec-wise, what to avoid, what to particularly focus on.
>
> As for TFT monitors, I'm confining my range to between 19" and 23". No
> Eizo's or Apple's - way too costly for me over here. Can't get my hands on
> Sony's either for some strange reason. So I'm limited to Samsung, LG, HP,
> Dell, Lenovo, Viewsonic, Acer, Benq etc.
>
> I've been looking around online and it gets increasingly confusing. It's
> difficult to make any direct comparisons from one make/model to another.
> While most if not all manufacturers seem convinced that the larger the
> contrast ratio, the better but someone on this List quite a while ago
> mentioned that, that's not exactly true.
>
> Then there's the issue of whether it's a good idea to be able to
> individually and separately adjusting the R, G and B colours as part of
> the
> menu controls. Almost every website doesn't provide any such information.
> Is
> this because this manner of control isn't possible at all or just that
> manufacturers are slack in the info department?
>
> I also read that Lenovo offers very affordable monitors that can pivot so
> you can have landscape and portraiture viewing format, which is great.
> However it also says that the PC's graphic card must be capable of taking
> advantage of this feature. If this is true, do today's standard graphic
> cards all support this pivoting feature?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> K.

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