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Subject: Re: [OM] ACR in PSE 8.0 was: Who in the world writes this junk? - Raw software rant.
From: Jim Couch <zuikoholic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:52:00 -0800
In Master or Studio you are 'editing' the raw file, it does not have to 
be converted first.

Jim Couch

Chuck Norcutt wrote:
> How is it that a raw file opens directly into the editor?  Doesn't the 
> editor require a converted version?
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> Candace Lemarr wrote:
>   
>> Thank you, Joel.
>> I appreciate the info on Master vs. Studio.
>> I am unable to get the ORFs to open directly into the RAW converter of 
>> Master 2 from FastStone, but they do open in th editor and then I can 
>> click on the RAW button on the top tool bar.
>> I agree with you that it would be most helpful to be able to save 
>> settings or a set of development preferences in Master 2.
>> And, like you, I am very happy with the ease of setting up folders and 
>> directories using FastStone.
>>
>> Candace 
>>
>>
>>
>> Joel Wilcox wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Candace,
>>> Your question prompted me to try to do something I've meant to do for
>>> some time.  I tried to see if I could use FastStone to open an ORF
>>> file directly into Master's RAW converter.  I can get this to happen
>>> with Studio2 just fine, and after updating Master to the latest and
>>> greatest version, I can get it to open in Master2 as well.  It is not
>>> quite as smooth as the transition into Studio2 and the interface in
>>> Master is gee-whiz compared to the more Lightroom-ish Studio2.  I like
>>> Studio2 better, but that might also be just what I'm used to now.
>>> (The current Master v.2 interface is much better than the old Master
>>> v.1.)  In practice, the RAW converter part of Studio and Master seems
>>> almost identical in operation.  It provides the dialogues which mirror
>>> proprietary camera settings like "gradation," custom WB settings in
>>> the camera, etc., which is what Studio2 does as well.
>>>
>>> Master is an essential program, for me, for one reason only:  it seems
>>> to work better than Studio2 to connect the camera for firmware
>>> updates.  It's not like you need that all of the time, but when you
>>> need it, you really need it.
>>>
>>> When Studio2 is configured as an external editing program in FS, ORF
>>> files open in an editing window in Studio2.  It is important the first
>>> time you work with Studio2, however, to run through all of the options
>>> and make sure to set up PS or whatever as the registered editor.  If
>>> you have color management profiles (for the monitor especially), you
>>> can identify those, too.  Same with Master.
>>>
>>> I have found that when I use FS to open an ORF in Studio2, I am able
>>> to perform the few functions I want performed in RAW conversion and
>>> simply click X to close Studio2.  It then provides a dialogue prior to
>>> saving the file and asks what to do when the file is saved.  This
>>> dialogue allows me to select the quality of file I want saved (16-bit
>>> TIFF) and what I want it to do after closing (open the registered
>>> editor).  I make those selections (I wish it were possible to register
>>> or save my "save" routine, but I can't, so it requires a few clicks
>>> each time) and then click "Save" and PS opens with the TIFF file ready
>>> for further editing.
>>>
>>> Master doesn't seem to be able to transition as neatly into PS.
>>> Instead, you have to save the TIFF and close the RAW converter.  You
>>> will be in the browser at that point and can just click the TIFF
>>> version to open it and it will launch PS (or whatever) at that point.
>>>
>>> My routine from there is to work the TIFF file in PS, convert down to
>>> 8-bit and save to jpg.  I save the jpg to a separate folder from the
>>> TIFF and ORF files.  I don't mind having the TIFF file alongside the
>>> ORF file temporarily.  I come back to the folder in FastStone later
>>> and mark the TIFFs for deletion and, theoretically, move the related
>>> ORF file into an archive.  Filenames for ORF, TIFF, and jpg are the
>>> same other than the extension.  FastStone makes this sort of folder
>>> cleanup pretty easy
>>>
>>> Studio2's shortcomings for me are in not providing a way to load a
>>> file of saved settings.  For example, I use some settings in the
>>> camera that I never mean to carry over into raw conversion.  I used to
>>> use the "auto" setting in Gradation and would usually always change it
>>> to "normal" in the RAW conversion.  Same thing with +2 sharpening
>>> settings which I would then turn off in conversion.  It would be nice
>>> to be able to load a file with my standard settings for RAW
>>> conversion.  I don't do batch conversions (though I certainly could),
>>> but it might be a good feature to have in that case too.
>>>
>>> Joel W.
>>>   
>>>       
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