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Re: [OM] ACR in PSE 8.0 was: Who in the world writes this junk? - Raw so

Subject: Re: [OM] ACR in PSE 8.0 was: Who in the world writes this junk? - Raw software rant.
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:41:46 -0500
Of course it does.  Otherwise the displayed image would be a Bayer array.

Chuck Norcutt


Jim Couch wrote:
> In Master or Studio you are 'editing' the raw file, it does not have to 
> be converted first.
> 
> Jim Couch
> 
> Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>> How is it that a raw file opens directly into the editor?  Doesn't the 
>> editor require a converted version?
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> Candace Lemarr wrote:
>>   
>>> Thank you, Joel.
>>> I appreciate the info on Master vs. Studio.
>>> I am unable to get the ORFs to open directly into the RAW converter of 
>>> Master 2 from FastStone, but they do open in th editor and then I can 
>>> click on the RAW button on the top tool bar.
>>> I agree with you that it would be most helpful to be able to save 
>>> settings or a set of development preferences in Master 2.
>>> And, like you, I am very happy with the ease of setting up folders and 
>>> directories using FastStone.
>>>
>>> Candace 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joel Wilcox wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Hi Candace,
>>>> Your question prompted me to try to do something I've meant to do for
>>>> some time.  I tried to see if I could use FastStone to open an ORF
>>>> file directly into Master's RAW converter.  I can get this to happen
>>>> with Studio2 just fine, and after updating Master to the latest and
>>>> greatest version, I can get it to open in Master2 as well.  It is not
>>>> quite as smooth as the transition into Studio2 and the interface in
>>>> Master is gee-whiz compared to the more Lightroom-ish Studio2.  I like
>>>> Studio2 better, but that might also be just what I'm used to now.
>>>> (The current Master v.2 interface is much better than the old Master
>>>> v.1.)  In practice, the RAW converter part of Studio and Master seems
>>>> almost identical in operation.  It provides the dialogues which mirror
>>>> proprietary camera settings like "gradation," custom WB settings in
>>>> the camera, etc., which is what Studio2 does as well.
>>>>
>>>> Master is an essential program, for me, for one reason only:  it seems
>>>> to work better than Studio2 to connect the camera for firmware
>>>> updates.  It's not like you need that all of the time, but when you
>>>> need it, you really need it.
>>>>
>>>> When Studio2 is configured as an external editing program in FS, ORF
>>>> files open in an editing window in Studio2.  It is important the first
>>>> time you work with Studio2, however, to run through all of the options
>>>> and make sure to set up PS or whatever as the registered editor.  If
>>>> you have color management profiles (for the monitor especially), you
>>>> can identify those, too.  Same with Master.
>>>>
>>>> I have found that when I use FS to open an ORF in Studio2, I am able
>>>> to perform the few functions I want performed in RAW conversion and
>>>> simply click X to close Studio2.  It then provides a dialogue prior to
>>>> saving the file and asks what to do when the file is saved.  This
>>>> dialogue allows me to select the quality of file I want saved (16-bit
>>>> TIFF) and what I want it to do after closing (open the registered
>>>> editor).  I make those selections (I wish it were possible to register
>>>> or save my "save" routine, but I can't, so it requires a few clicks
>>>> each time) and then click "Save" and PS opens with the TIFF file ready
>>>> for further editing.
>>>>
>>>> Master doesn't seem to be able to transition as neatly into PS.
>>>> Instead, you have to save the TIFF and close the RAW converter.  You
>>>> will be in the browser at that point and can just click the TIFF
>>>> version to open it and it will launch PS (or whatever) at that point.
>>>>
>>>> My routine from there is to work the TIFF file in PS, convert down to
>>>> 8-bit and save to jpg.  I save the jpg to a separate folder from the
>>>> TIFF and ORF files.  I don't mind having the TIFF file alongside the
>>>> ORF file temporarily.  I come back to the folder in FastStone later
>>>> and mark the TIFFs for deletion and, theoretically, move the related
>>>> ORF file into an archive.  Filenames for ORF, TIFF, and jpg are the
>>>> same other than the extension.  FastStone makes this sort of folder
>>>> cleanup pretty easy
>>>>
>>>> Studio2's shortcomings for me are in not providing a way to load a
>>>> file of saved settings.  For example, I use some settings in the
>>>> camera that I never mean to carry over into raw conversion.  I used to
>>>> use the "auto" setting in Gradation and would usually always change it
>>>> to "normal" in the RAW conversion.  Same thing with +2 sharpening
>>>> settings which I would then turn off in conversion.  It would be nice
>>>> to be able to load a file with my standard settings for RAW
>>>> conversion.  I don't do batch conversions (though I certainly could),
>>>> but it might be a good feature to have in that case too.
>>>>
>>>> Joel W.
>>>>   
>>>>       
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