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Re: [OM] 5D II pattern noise problem

Subject: Re: [OM] 5D II pattern noise problem
From: "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:41:22 -0600
Hi Ken,

As a former pilot, I respect your position.  Instructors like that end up 
getting people killed.  I used to routinely fly my family in and out of an 
1800-ft runway in a Tri-Pacer.  It teaches one to learn what the machine 
will and will not do.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Norton" <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] 5D II pattern noise problem


> >
>> Sounds like a bug in ACR.
>
>
>
> You are just waiting for me to jump right up on my anti-Adobe soapbox 
> here,
> aren't you?
>
> Well, guess what.  I'm not. But I am about to launch on us photographers 
> who
> blindly trust that it's ________ therefore it's wonderful. Fill in the 
> blank
> with whatever you want.
>
> Unless a person does their own testing and analysis and pushing the limits
> of things, you're subject to whatever whims of design flaws that might 
> come
> your way.
>
> When I was taking flying lessons, I fired one of my instructors because he
> taught only the straight and level and not how to recover from the the
> problem attitudes. He refused to take the airplane to a stall, but when
> things started feeling rough (5 kts above stall) he'd shove the throttle
> back in, level the plane and say "close enough".  When he said that he
> didn't believe in short-field operations and that the 10,000 foot runways
> were good enough for training on, I had enough of him. The fact was, by 
> that
> point I already knew how to shortfield/softfield land a Cessna 172 and 
> bring
> it to a complete stop in well under 300 feet, so I knew the guy was
> worthless. I asked him about slips and he said that he didn't teach them. 
> I
> asked him how I was going to pass the checkride, and he said something to
> the effect that he sends all his students to this one check pilot who
> doesn't push the issue.   PS, on one approach to a 10000' runway I was way
> high on final, but knew how to slip it in and squeek it on the threshold,
> but he forced me to go around. Yeah, I know, he was the instructor, but 
> good
> grief... We could have landed it 10 times in the length of the runway! 
> BTW,
> the instructor that taught me the shortfield work was a former missionary
> bush pilot. During one training flight we landed a Cessna 172 crosswise on 
> a
> wide runway.  I got my early flight training on another treelined airport,
> though, that had a 25' wide runway. In fact, the entire clearing of one of
> the runways was not even 150' wide. Landing on that runway required that 
> you
> almost stall the airplane as your wheels brush the branches of the 100'
> trees at the end of the runway. This was the airport my dad flew out of 
> all
> the time and it was as challenging as anything anywhere. The crosswinds 
> were
> ALWAYS horrid and swirling and only one runway departure, of the four,
> didn't have at least an 85' tree at the end. Did I mention the ever 
> present
> deer on the runways or the fact that at no point in the pattern could you
> see the entire runway? (That airport is now closed and the runways are
> almost totally reclaimed by nature--good riddence)
>
> My point is, that you need to test to failure.  Test to see just how far 
> you
> can push an image. Learn and apply. As to the pushing of an image two or
> more stops, that isn't unusual because we do a ton of highlight and shadow
> recovery in our images which can far exceed two stops of manipulation.
>
> I personally continue to test my equipment, even though I think I know
> everything there is to know about it because every time I do, I end up
> learning something new.
>
> AG
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