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Subject: Re: [OM] [SPAM] Pee bags, was Dunnies - was Nathan's PAW 48: point and shoot
From: Andrew Fildes <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:49:53 +1100
Trust the septics to have reclining seats - automatic shift as well? :-)
The phot was interesting but the arrangement you described was not  
quite visible - another cold day?
Andrew Fildes
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On 09/12/2009, at 5:30 AM, Chris Barker wrote:

> For the aircraft which have it, Charles, it's just a toilet.  In  
> smaller, faster machines it's a pee bag or something like "relief  
> system".  I've only used it once, in the F16.
>
> Story: switch off now if you get bored easily.
>
> My first ever long-range trip, using a USAF Reserves KC-135 to get 5  
> F16s from MacDill AFB, FL to NAS Miramar near San Diego.  I felt the  
> need to pee after a couple of hours, perhaps over Texas.  So I broke  
> the membrane on a pee bag and tried to use it.  But the little  
> fighter's seat is inclined at 30deg (vs the 13deg of most other  
> ejection seats) and I'm not well-endowed enough to make the flow  
> from leaning backwards like that.  So I have to unstrap and lean  
> forward a bit.  But also it's cold in the cockpit and a limp dick  
> becomes quite difficult to find.  So you have to think warm thoughts  
> to make it all happen!
>
> What is also difficult is holding formation with a tanker while  
> trying to find your willie in a flight suit strapped into an  
> ejection seat.  So I wandered away from the formation and almost  
> couldn't find them when I had finished my business.
>
> But that was preferable to a USAF colleague's experience.  Before we  
> departed MacDill he showed me a pee tube affair that he had rigged  
> up: a funnel over said willie, tube-connected to a pee bag in his  
> lower flight suit pocket.  Trouble was it leaked ... and he got out  
> of his super-cool F16 on the ramp at Fightertown USA with a long wet  
> patch on his flight suit leg and crotch, risking great scorn from  
> our Naval hosts.  Oh, the ignominy!
>
> And this is a photo of me in a D-model (2-seater) just before  
> departing Miramar.  I think it was taken with an Olympus Infinity  
> Twin, bought in San Diego a few days before.
>
> http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100053
>
> Chris
>
> On 8 Dec 2009, at 18:09, Charles Geilfuss wrote:
>
>> Chris what do the fly boys call it? I've never heard it called  
>> anything in
>> the big jets. In the small ones I suppose its a diaper or "just  
>> wait".?!
>>
>> Charlie
>
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