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Re: [OM] Another overpriced 3Ti on the 'bay'

Subject: Re: [OM] Another overpriced 3Ti on the 'bay'
From: Andrew <renditions@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:35:26 +1030
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> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:53:24 -0500
> From: Chris Crawford <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] Another overpriced 3Ti on the 'bay
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> On 3/10/10 12:39 PM, "Ken Norton" <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> So, to wrap this diatribe (prolonged discourse) up, let me just summarize:
>> The OM-3Ti is an unique camera within the OM line and is recognized as a
>> "collectable", but to the dedicated photographer represents the "best of the
>> breed." The camera is much more than the sum of its parts--and demands the
>> best from the photographer. It is not as easy to use as an electronic
>> wildabeast, as there is almost no automation to speak of, so the
>> photographer has to play a much more active roll in shooting the camera.
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> The OM-4T has a manual mode for those times when you want full control. The
> battery dependence thing is a non-issue because the thing that sets the 3Ti
> apart from the OM-1 is the metering system. Guess what, it takes batteries.
> To me the metering on the 3/4 series cameras is the reason to use them. They
> need batteries, so I carry extra batteries. Of course you could carry a
> handheld meter or just guess if your batteries die, but in that case a $100
> OM-1 will do nicely.

> Chris Crawford



Isnt what you mean, is, to YOU its a non-issue, to others it IS an issue and 
you should respect that, if you can grasp the concept in any way, shape or form.
I wonder why you dont you use an OM-2 instead of an OM-4T? (not that theres 
anything wrong with an OM-2) but its basically the same thing as saying to 
someone with an OM-3Ti that they may as well use an OM-1 instead. 

Just to name a few reasons to choose an OM-3Ti over an OM-1 (again i'm not 
knocking OM1's-there fine, great value for money, there are many tens of 
thousands of them out there!) is, brighter screen, built in diopter, no needle 
(in the way) to use or view, weather sealed, faster shutter speed, much newer 
camera, nicer shutter button to feel under finger IMO, takes non mercury 
batteries (obviously without need to update), film reminder on back 
door....just a bunch of little things but they add up to a lot of dollars and 
you mentioned further below prices increase very fast for small improvements, 
considering it is one of the last mechanical cameras made, its cost is doable 
for many if they choose to, people spend this every other day on canons and 
nikons and leicas, the OM-3Ti is certainly a viable SLR option (my preference 
for many situations over leica, which i also have) to a leica MP or M6 xxx

Andrew





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>> Chris,
>> 
>> Let me comment. No, what ever camera you won doesn't make you a better
>> photographer, but I do agree with whoever posted on either MR's of Mike
>> Johnson's website that if you think that photos with a hasselblad can be
>> duplicated with a Lomo, you've gone too far. I am reminded of a story about
>> a photographer who was asked by a well-regarded artist, "What kind of camera
>> do you use?" the response- "What kind of brush do you use."
> 
> We're not comparing holgas to leicas here, we're comparing two cameras that
> are nearly identical from the same manufacturer. As to artists and brushes,
> this silly apocryphal tale is always brought up by photographers and it
> shows how little most know about art. I went to art school and the artists I
> went to school with as well as the painting professors were well aware that
> brushes do make a difference and that cheapies don't work as well as more
> costly ones, though there is a point of diminishing returns. Photography's
> the same. Once you get to a certain quality level, the prices start
> increasing very fast, while quality increases much more slowly.
> 

They (om-3TI and 4Ti) may look similar, they may even work similar (practically 
the same except for otf-ttl flash speed), but they are not the same inside, 
they have a slightly different feel, the shutter is mechanical and doesnt have 
the electronic ping sound of the OM-4Ti at high speed, at low speed you can 
hear the clockwork whirring down, when you move the shutter dial from slow to 
faster speed you hear and feel the speed governor kick in...its just a nice 
machine to use, your on a budget and see no reason to pay for the extra money 
for a hand built rarer mechanical camera produced in an electronic age, and i 
can understand that, it seems you will never understand what makes the OM-3Ti 
worth the extra dollars...

cheers
Andrew
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